[Noisebridge-discuss] sleepytime funtime!

[Marc Powell]

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On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, skye estes wrote:

> this was already brought up in the irc; jay and i both agreed that a. no
> harm was done and b. all parties involved will make sure that such a thing
> never happens again at the space.
>
> to quinn and meredith: as stated earlier, jay is my good friend. that is the
> only reason i was sure he would find it amusing and took the pictures after
> the fact. this would have been applicable and harmless at, say, a party or
> some other social situation.
>
> this is not indicative of how i feel the space should be treated. i want
> everyone to feel comfortable there, and as i don't know most of the people
> that hang out there very well, i have no inclination to allow anyone to be
> drawn on or anything similar.
>
> this sort of horseplay is only okay between close friends, as far as i'm
> concerned, and we will keep it out of the space from here on in order to
> avoid any further possibility of making its participants feel uncomfortable,
> unsafe, or unwelcome.
>
> .skye.
>
> http://skye.heli.cx
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Mikael Vejdemo Johansson
> <mik at stanford.edu>wrote:
>
> > On Nov 22, 2008, at 8:42 PM, skye estes wrote:
> >
> >> had it been someone i didn't know very well or at all, i would agree, and
> >> would certainly have stopped it from happening, but jay is my friend, and it
> >> was a silly little thing that's being blown out of proportion because it
> >> happened at noisebridge.
> >>
> >> had it happened anywhere else, it would warrant nothing more than a
> >> chuckle and it would never be mentioned again. i know that the space is a
> >> community, but i don't think that it's the community's place to tell friends
> >> how to behave with each other if it doesn't affect anyone else.
> >>
> >> that said, i did apologize to jay, but again, that's between friends, and
> >> the pictures were just meant to provide some momentary amusement. i'll
> >> delete the wiki page. this is so over.
> >>
> >>
> > You probably have noticed by now, but the issue is not so much that Jay is
> > cool with you doing stuff that gets people upset. It's much more that all of
> > a sudden, very many of the Noisebridge people are realizing that at least
> > one person apparently views (familiar and) sleeping/napping people at the
> > space as being fair game for getting drawn on with markers.
> >
> > Apparently Shannon, Quinn and mlp really don't want Noisebridge to be that
> > kind of place. I'm not sure I want it to either - on the other hand, I have
> > been known to have "label body parts" with markers being one of the things I
> > start doing when sufficiently sugar high. Only on live subjects though - not
> > on sleepers....
> >
> > Aaaaanyway.
> >
> > I would feel sad if this led to a state where People I Find Awesome are no
> > longer probable to be discovered still asleep at the space when I come in
> > weekend late mornings. It would make Noisebridge slightly less awesome, and
> > would subject everyone to much more logistics.
> >
> > It wouldn't seem to be an issue that requires dealing with in the general
> > assembly: I for one hope that the strength of emotion around this issue
> > indicates to those of us (me included, see labeling body parts above) that
> > might be inclined to wield markers what price that inclination would bring,
> > and what would constitute and not constitute being excellent to each other.
> >
> > // Mikael
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
> >> I can't believe I even have to say this.
> >>
> >> Standing there and taking a picture and laughing while someone does
> >> something you find reprehensible makes you a coward, as well as an
> >> accessory.  So yeah, it was you that did it.
> >>
> >> And just because JSharp is gracious about it doesn't mean it was OK.
> >>
> >> Seriously, grow up.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:18 PM, skye estes <skye.estes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> clarification: i did not do this. i would not have even considered doing
> >> this. that is not me in the picture. i just posted the pictures and the
> >> link. that said, i found it amusing after the fact.
> >>
> >> jay was there with me today. i of course showed him the post. he was not
> >> nearly as upset as everyone else seems to be. i think a harmless prank is
> >> being blown out of proportion.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
> >> That was not awesome.
> >>
> >> This isn't a fucking frat.  Act like a grownup.  And you owe JSharp an
> >> apology.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:09 PM, C C <crisachow14 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ooooh.  Totally mean.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:27 AM, skye estes <skye.estes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/BootsOn
> >>
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> > Mikael Vejdemo Johansson, Dr.rer.nat
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> > mik at math.stanford.edu
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