[Noisebridge-discuss] sleepytime funtime!

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Who are you talking to Marc?


On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Marc Powell <marc at foodhacking.com> wrote:

> UNSUBSCRIBE
>
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, skye estes wrote:
>
> > this was already brought up in the irc; jay and i both agreed that a. no
> > harm was done and b. all parties involved will make sure that such a
> thing
> > never happens again at the space.
> >
> > to quinn and meredith: as stated earlier, jay is my good friend. that is
> the
> > only reason i was sure he would find it amusing and took the pictures
> after
> > the fact. this would have been applicable and harmless at, say, a party
> or
> > some other social situation.
> >
> > this is not indicative of how i feel the space should be treated. i want
> > everyone to feel comfortable there, and as i don't know most of the
> people
> > that hang out there very well, i have no inclination to allow anyone to
> be
> > drawn on or anything similar.
> >
> > this sort of horseplay is only okay between close friends, as far as i'm
> > concerned, and we will keep it out of the space from here on in order to
> > avoid any further possibility of making its participants feel
> uncomfortable,
> > unsafe, or unwelcome.
> >
> > .skye.
> >
> > http://skye.heli.cx
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Mikael Vejdemo Johansson
> > <mik at stanford.edu>wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 22, 2008, at 8:42 PM, skye estes wrote:
> > >
> > >> had it been someone i didn't know very well or at all, i would agree,
> and
> > >> would certainly have stopped it from happening, but jay is my friend,
> and it
> > >> was a silly little thing that's being blown out of proportion because
> it
> > >> happened at noisebridge.
> > >>
> > >> had it happened anywhere else, it would warrant nothing more than a
> > >> chuckle and it would never be mentioned again. i know that the space
> is a
> > >> community, but i don't think that it's the community's place to tell
> friends
> > >> how to behave with each other if it doesn't affect anyone else.
> > >>
> > >> that said, i did apologize to jay, but again, that's between friends,
> and
> > >> the pictures were just meant to provide some momentary amusement. i'll
> > >> delete the wiki page. this is so over.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > You probably have noticed by now, but the issue is not so much that Jay
> is
> > > cool with you doing stuff that gets people upset. It's much more that
> all of
> > > a sudden, very many of the Noisebridge people are realizing that at
> least
> > > one person apparently views (familiar and) sleeping/napping people at
> the
> > > space as being fair game for getting drawn on with markers.
> > >
> > > Apparently Shannon, Quinn and mlp really don't want Noisebridge to be
> that
> > > kind of place. I'm not sure I want it to either - on the other hand, I
> have
> > > been known to have "label body parts" with markers being one of the
> things I
> > > start doing when sufficiently sugar high. Only on live subjects though
> - not
> > > on sleepers....
> > >
> > > Aaaaanyway.
> > >
> > > I would feel sad if this led to a state where People I Find Awesome are
> no
> > > longer probable to be discovered still asleep at the space when I come
> in
> > > weekend late mornings. It would make Noisebridge slightly less awesome,
> and
> > > would subject everyone to much more logistics.
> > >
> > > It wouldn't seem to be an issue that requires dealing with in the
> general
> > > assembly: I for one hope that the strength of emotion around this issue
> > > indicates to those of us (me included, see labeling body parts above)
> that
> > > might be inclined to wield markers what price that inclination would
> bring,
> > > and what would constitute and not constitute being excellent to each
> other.
> > >
> > > // Mikael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>
> wrote:
> > >> I can't believe I even have to say this.
> > >>
> > >> Standing there and taking a picture and laughing while someone does
> > >> something you find reprehensible makes you a coward, as well as an
> > >> accessory.  So yeah, it was you that did it.
> > >>
> > >> And just because JSharp is gracious about it doesn't mean it was OK.
> > >>
> > >> Seriously, grow up.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:18 PM, skye estes <skye.estes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> clarification: i did not do this. i would not have even considered
> doing
> > >> this. that is not me in the picture. i just posted the pictures and
> the
> > >> link. that said, i found it amusing after the fact.
> > >>
> > >> jay was there with me today. i of course showed him the post. he was
> not
> > >> nearly as upset as everyone else seems to be. i think a harmless prank
> is
> > >> being blown out of proportion.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>
> wrote:
> > >> That was not awesome.
> > >>
> > >> This isn't a fucking frat.  Act like a grownup.  And you owe JSharp an
> > >> apology.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:09 PM, C C <crisachow14 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Ooooh.  Totally mean.
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:27 AM, skye estes <skye.estes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/BootsOn
> > >>
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> > >>
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