[Noisebridge-discuss] key access for non-signers

[Noah Balmer]

Hi Jonas, I hope Sydney is treating you well.

I think this are all good ideas, key-wise.  I know a few people have
expressed a desire to make anonymous electronic keys with no logging, but
personally I like your proposal better.

Distance often gives a calmer perspective.  I appreciate hearing your views
from afar.

-N



On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Jonas S Karlsson <jsk at yesco.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy with all the progress that is happening. I'm in envy
> here in Sydney.
>
> I'd say to all, don't let this deter building a great space.
>
> below is a distant proposal, as I'm not physically there, I don't
> think I have any say in the matter, but these are my thoughts.
>
> I think for now, and future it makes sense to have a electronic key
> system, so that invidiual people's keys (or all) can be revoked
> and then later reset in person. I'm also for logging who's been in the
> space in terms of personal logins. Maybe even a public log
> on the website to see who's in the space, depends on if people are
> comfortable with it. If not, it may encourage people to turn up!
>
> I don't think many people, or maybe not even the whole board needs to
> have PERMANENT keys to the space. That is
> the issue I see as being the most problematic. So I totally agree on
> not creating physical permanent copies to all,
> I totally support that.
>
> For now, I'd expect the phone numbers of all key holder to be
> published, and that they make an effort to be there and open/close up
> if
> work needs to be done. Maybe even take turns on a schedule to say when
> somebody will be there, wikipage or whatever. They may designate other
> people to hold their key if they personally trust that person, and
> that person will then be "personally responsible". This would seem
> workable for me meanwhile until we're incorporated and have member
> access keycode system.
>
> Other solutions would be to have a way to close the door temporary
> with another lock, but this all is probably just a temporary issue, in
> my mind.
>
> Regarding reacting to things said in email-list assume that you'll get
> misunderstood :-( and that you'll misunderstand anything you read.
> ;-)
> React only when you directly can talk to the person in question,
> ignore the rest. I think most people only believe and form an opinion
> about what you say directly, third++ hand information is just unreliable.
>
> all the best from warm Sydney,
>
>    hip hip hurra to all of you!
>
> /Jonas
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com>
> wrote:
> > I don't have a suggestion about this one.  I admit I'm hoping that we'll
> get
> > incorporated TOMORROW and the problem goes away.  It also appears that
> > progress is being made on the electronic card access project.
> >
> > Can people wait for keys a couple more days?  Is this just Jake and me
> > butting heads on behalf of nobody?  What do you all think?
> >
> > Rachel
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