[Noisebridge-discuss] key access for non-signers

Al Billings albill at arcanology.com
Thu Oct 2 19:03:08 UTC 2008


Was Rubin's question directed to Noah? I didn't realize that.

I think that everyone on the board (and quite a few others, like David) 
have done a lot of work over the las 10 months to try to get Noisebridge 
off the ground. If someone whom we don't know, either from online or as 
a friend of some of the members, shows up, it makes sense to wonder what 
they've done to help if they are proposing radical revisions. I'm not 
sure that makes sense with people who have been around forever (though 
maybe it does). It can easily turn atagonistic.

Everyone in Noisebridge is not well known to everyone but most of us 
have friends within the group and some presence on an ongoing basis. 
Let's all treat each other with that in mind (and I'm not saying that 
you didn't, Rubin, but I won't to throw it out in general).

For the love of all that's holy, let's try to keep drama and bad 
feelings to a minimum. A lot of us are strong personalities and we're 
likely to butt heads. Let's remember what the overall goal is, which is 
Noisebridge being successful.

Al

Noah Balmer wrote:
>
>     Please excuse me being a total fucking douche bag (as it's going
>     to sound just like that), but mind me legitimately asking the very
>     innocent question of, what have you contributed to NB? 
>
> That's a legitimate question, I don't think you're a douche bag.
> I promoted noisebridge from my table at the last maker faire and sent 
> follow-up emails to everyone who signed up as interested.  I've put a 
> very significant amount of work into learning CA Public Benefit and 
> Non-Profit law, in order to understand what we need to do to meet our 
> goals and comply with the law.  I've shown up at nearly every meeting 
> for many months, even the not-fun-but-necessary bylaw writing 
> sessions, and shared everything I learned.  I solicited an offer of 
> non-profit-management training for the board and whoever else is 
> interested, which I believe is still available once we're 
> incorporated, though it was offered long ago when we though 
> incorporation was right around the corner.  When we wanted to hear the 
> opinion of another lawyer regarding legal structure of the 
> organization, I met with my company's lawyer (I work at a non-profit) 
> and reported back, and got an offer of ongoing consultations as 
> needed.  I showed up for space viewings, and when I was asked I signed 
> a lease to make sure we could hold the place until the incorporation 
> happened, I did so. 
> Not all these things are valuable to everybody, but I did, to the best 
> of my ability, what seemed necessary to make Noisebridge possible. 
>
> Arr... desire to be responsive and accountable to the group is 
> competing with requirement to do work.  If I don't write much more for 
> a while it's because I'm busy, not becasue I don't care.
>
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