[Noisebridge-discuss] Party anyone?

[Ian]

also throwing it out there in the spirit of brainstorming, what about
the dna lounge? maybe that would be a better venue or cheaper?

thanks

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Christie Dudley<longobord at gmail.com> wrote:
> I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment of not excluding anyone.
> This is what I've been led to understand.
>
> OK, I know Cellspace has a Place of Entertainment permit.  They talk
> about it on their website.  Part of Cellspace's mission is to engage
> young people in art, so there's no question about having people of all
> ages in the facility.  The question of the liquor license arises.  I
> think this is something we can discuss with DaveX who runs the space
> and is very knowledgeable about all this, having been through
> everything we're going through now, and brought it up to being within
> city spec. If we decide to go with a different space, we'd definitely
> have to navigate this complex issue ourselves.
>
> Christie
>
> ---
> Pigs can fly given sufficient thrust.
>
>
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> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Andy Isaacson<adi at hexapodia.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:44:58PM -0700, Christie Dudley wrote:
>>> Another thing we need to consider and discuss.  I understand Seth was
>>> mentioning last night that he'd like to see "all ages" events as often
>>> as it's reasonable.  The issue arises that the majority of the money
>>> that's made at these sorts of things is at the bar.  Ideally, we'd
>>> have events that are as wide open as possible.  I'll be looking into
>>> what it would take to keep this open while still selling liquor.
>>
>> I don't want to put words into Seth's mouth, but here's my take on the
>> issue.
>>
>> Seth raised the very reasonable point that many of us got into hacking
>> before we reached the age of majority, and we all remember feeling
>> excluded by events that had an age limit.  (That certainly resonated
>> with me.)
>>
>> Last night, Seth seemed to feel very strongly that Noisebridge should
>> not have or sponsor events with age restrictions.
>>
>> It is not possible (AFAIK the california alcohol code, which is not
>> 100%) for a bar with a Place of Entertainment permit to allow minors
>> into their space.  The rules are different for
>>  - private parties with a one-day license
>>  - restaurants with a beer+wine license
>>  - bars with a liquor license
>>
>> I believe the first two can allow minors and the third cannot, but
>> IANAL and I don't even play one on TV.
>>
>> These rules are not fair.  They are not right.  They are not sane.  They
>> are not even legislation -- just administrative rulings.  But we cannot
>> fight them, we must work within them (or choose to avoid activities
>> governed by them).  So please don't talk to me about fairness or sanity,
>> but please *do* talk to me about the practicalities of having events
>> that will not get us in trouble and also allow us to express our
>> creative outlets.
>>
>> -andy
>>
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