[Noisebridge-discuss] 224 12th

[Christie Dudley]

Is this still on?  I'd like to see it.  If anything falls through with
the space we're now arguing all over, it'll be tragic, TRAGIC, I say.
(But not really all that much of a surprise in the scheme of things.)
I think this space sounds super and we should at least have one
viewing before the "y'all come" that was the second viewing of the
Mission space.

Christie

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 Disrupting paradigms since 1967



On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Geoff Schmidt<geoff at geoffschmidt.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, some members asked me to set up a showing of 224 12th,
> the .65/ft office-ish space in soma. I tried to get something together
> for Thursday but there were problems coordinating with TRI, the
> landlord's broker. So it'll probably be Monday or Tuesday of next
> week, circa 7pm. If you want to see the space and can't make it, reply
> offlist with your constraints.
>
> To set expectations, 224 12th should be in better shape (walls go to
> the ceiling, floors in decent condition, etc) but I suspect it'll feel
> like midlist office space instead of a blank h4x0r canvas. It's also a
> bit smaller, 80% of the size. On the other hand, the buildout
> contemplated at 2169 Mission is easily $50k+ if done in any way
> approaching legal[*], and lots of time. If 224 12th is already divided
> in an acceptable way it might be worth considering.
>
> To be clear: I am setting this up because I was asked to do so. I'm
> not a member and am not advocating for any direction by the group; I
> just want to make what/who I know available to such Noisebridgers as
> may want it.
>
> geoff
>
> [*] Some notes here: If you build stuff without permits, the fine is 9
> (IIRC) times what the permit fee would have been, often reduced to 3
> times the permit fee on appeal. The permit fee's a few thousand
> dollars, but that's not the bad part. The bad part is that the city
> can make you tear everything out and rebuild it, so that they can
> inspect the interiors of the walls before the drywall goes on and such
> things. When work is done with permits, it needs to be done by
> licensed, insured, bonded contractors, with a few exceptions, and must
> be to code. It is not feasible for amateurs to get licenses, but we
> have friends with licenses. Clearly work is done all the time without
> permits, but it is a risk in a space open to the public for events.
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