[Noisebridge-discuss] Keys

[Shannon Lee]

The benefits of membership are the ability to participate in the consensus
process, period.

Why's it important to have the group deem someone awesome?

--S

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Ani Niow <v at oneletterwonder.com> wrote:

> Can I also say that I've been a bit uncomfortable with the idea and
> practice of handing out keys to non-members ever since I knew about it? Its
> not so much about the security issues of a lock which can be easily picked
> as we all are aware but the symbology of trusting someone enough to let them
> use our space whenever they please without having to have someone else let
> them in.
> If someone has a key then I know they're a member and has been deemed
> awesome by the group to become a part of us, if anyone can give anyone a key
> that makes that distinction more difficult. I know I've had friends before
> that I thought were alright but many of my other friends didn't.
>
> This also brings into question, what are the actual benefits to membership?
> From what I've been able to gather, you get to block consensus (oh boy) and
> contribute to keep the space going. The list on the wiki of member benefits
> doesn't seem to be all that accurate in practice.
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/New_Member_FAQ
>
>
> -Ani
>
>
>
> 2009/6/1 Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
>
> On 6/1/09 4:33 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>>
>>> A list of 150-200 people who may have a key is probably not useful to
>>> Noisebridge. I bet more than a number of members would be doubleplus
>>> unhappy about such a list, myself included. It has a chilling effect
>>> without much of a return, I think.
>>>
>>> Do we really need a list of names to tell us that any crackhead on the
>>> street can bump that lock with a rubber mallet?
>>>
>>> Really, I think the concern is valid but attempted control of the keys
>>> seems to accomplish very little...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, for a while we were talking about putting it an electronic lock
>> system or replacing the locks. When keys were first handed out, I do know
>> that none of us expected that we'd be using the same keys and locks eight
>> months later.
>>
>> Al
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