[Noisebridge-discuss] noise at noisebridge

[Ani Niow]

I have to agree with Quinn. While the original premise I believe is valid
since I've experienced people as Paul is describing and are bothered by it
as well, this thread is going in a different direction than that.

-Ani


On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Quinn Norton <quinn at quinnnorton.com> wrote:

>
> this thread is getting very hackier than thou, which i find dissapointing
>
> On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, peter wrote:
>
> > Re: Josh's comment.
> >
> > Thank you for reminding us all that this is meant to be a space
> > specifically for hacking projects. While I am not a great offender on
> > this front, I, at times, find myself treating noisebridge as a hangout
> > space. We can all hang out anywhere! Let's try to keep a space
> > dedicated to hacking for hacking.
> >
> > Which is not to say that there is no place for socializing at
> > noisebridge, but srsly, let's try to focus on hacking at the hacking
> > space, shall we :)
> >
> > Best,
> > Peter
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Paul Böhm <paul at boehm.org> wrote:
> > > Well,
> > >
> > > personally i've managed to tell people clearly i don't want to listen
> > > to their bullshit - and that works.
> > > having to overhear nonsense is hard, but headphones work.
> > >
> > > however i'm worried that if we have too much nonsense-talking people
> here, then
> > > only people with a very high tolerance for nonsense and bullshit will
> > > stick around.
> > >
> > > this is especially true since the people i'm thinking about, almost
> > > hunt after newcomers, who are too polite to verbalize that after 15
> > > minutes of nonsense they are feeling really uncomfortable.
> > >
> > > paul
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>
> wrote:
> > >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 06:54:36PM -0800, Paul Böhm wrote:
> > >>> ok, my brain is about to explode - there's people here at nb who
> > >>> constantly babble nonsense because they are attention starved
> > >>> this alienates newcomers (since they haven't learned to ignore these
> > >>> people yet) and makes me want to avoid noisebridge
> > >>>
> > >>> opinions on this?
> > >>
> > >> I totally agree with the frustration, and feel it acutely.  As for
> > >> fixes: Wear headphones?  Set expectations that you're not someone
> > >> who's going to just listen?  These two strategies have served me well
> > >> thus far...  Then again, I'm pretty comfortable with being a jerk.
> > >>
> > >> In the same vein, we have a lot of people who think of noisebridge as
> > >> a place to hang out, not a place to come and hack.  It's frustrating
> > >> many of us, especially because we haven't found a good way to say
> > >> "It's awesome that you're here, and we'd love to help you work on
> > >> stuff.  What do you want to work on, and how can our community help
> > >> you accomplish that?"  It's sort of insidious: there's nobody who is
> > >> clearly abusing the space, it's just that people's behaviors are
> > >> shifting the way people use the space.  noisebridge is inadvertantly
> > >> becoming a place to come and surf youtube in the evening instead of a
> > >> place to hang out with others who are soldering, coding, or sewing.
> > >>
> > >> Personally, I only come in to work/collaborate on specific things.
> > >> It's kind of a bummer, but it's not so bad.  I wind up being a
> > >> floating question-answerer (or, at least, reference-pointer-outer)
> > >> anyway, so I get sucked into interesting things beyond my little
> > >> focus.  If I was less flexible or pragmatic about how I used my time
> > >> in the space, though, this would be incredibly frustrating.
> > >>
> > >> I think the general problem of people-who-are-distracting is solved
> > >> with a single question: how do we integrate people into our do-acracy
> > >> and minimize idle hands at 83c?
> > >> --
> > >> Josh Myer   650.248.3796
> > >>  josh at joshisanerd.com
> > >>
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