[Noisebridge-discuss] MonkeyBrains donates a new uplinkto Noisebridge

[davidfine]

 Hey Jim, it looks like you intentionally took off the  [drama] tag. I'm
not saying you can't discuss this all you want on the list, I'm just saying
I want my message filters to automatically turn it purple. Please use the
tag on future replies to this thread, as it would seem to qualify. 
 Thanks!
 --d

 On Sun 29/11/09 3:52 PM , jim jim at well.com sent:

 ...despite david's request (and gently put opinion)... 

 the use of the word "cabal" also strikes me as worth 
 discussing. crutcher had used the word "oligarchy". 

 the corresponding term i use is "core". 
 in my experience every group has a core of members 
 that do most of the work, about 10 to 15 percent, 
 depending on the current morale. 
 there's another ten or twenty percent that will chip 
 in to help from time to time. 
 there's something like 40 or 50 percent that rarely 
 or never help out. 
 note i'm reporting on experiences i've had in the 
 past, which seem to me at least somewhat a match to this 
 community. 
 the point: both "cabal" and "oligarchy" include some 
 meaning of authority or clandestine or establishment or 
 some such. i think those meanings do not help us to 
 understand our community properly and i suggest we 
 consider deprecating using them and try to use words 
 that don't have a pejorative tone. just for the sake of 
 accurate understanding. 

 On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 14:52 -0800, Rich Gibson wrote:
 > Just a note: Ani made strongly negative statements accusing Monkey
 > Brains of being 'unexcellent,' and of breaking contracts.
 > 
 > She was apparently asked 'special nice' by the secret cabal which
 > apparently runs NB, so she agreed not to actually provide any
 > evidence, or facts, or names. Just innuendo.
 > 
 > But trust the keepers of secrets that the people who want lots of
 > bandwidth and spent their personal money to get that bandwidth today
 > are intrinsically being unexcellent.
 > 
 > But we can't tell you why.
 > 
 > What am I missing here?
 > 
 > I assert that making a claim that someone is not being excellent based
 > only on hidden star 
 > chamber evidence is Bad.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Sai Emrys 
 > wrote:
 > On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Meredith L. Patterson
 >  wrote:
 > > This list is archived?
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 > Yes. See the footer.
 > 
 > Just a note, not opinion either way: Ani objects to some
 > possible
 > shenanigans by MonkeyBrains. Josh (et al?) claim that
 > sometimes
 > shenanigans by us are necessary. I find this interesting.
 > 
 > - Sai
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