[Noisebridge-discuss] Deep Crack

[Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson]

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On Oct 7, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Joachim Pedersen wrote:
>> This is obviously the #1 concern.  Whether or not it is legal for a
>> non-US citizen to be next to our touching the machine is a huge
>> concern.
> I still don't understand how we went from the legality of the export
> of cypto tech to legality of foreign nationals being in proximity to a
> piece of cyptotech who's 0-day has long since passed.
>

We went there when the original posting read:
> Announce: Deep Crack offered to NB. Fastest (non-classified) 3DES
> cracker. Non repurposable. US citizen use only. Claimed value $250k.
> Takes a lot of power, six racks worth of stuff, needs a truck. (Talk
> to Jake)
>

And some of us are US non-citizens, as well as aware of the extent to  
which INS/DHS/Border control/DoD/whoever can be fickly and unreasonable.

> Why this sudden swing towards self-policing? If this degree of fear
> was present during the build-out of 2169, we would still be at 83c. I
> want access to deepcrack, it would be nice if I could play with it
> while in the space... I might even want to be photographed in close
> proximity to DeepCrack for said 2010 calendar  ...
> Maybe installing it in the DjBooth with sufficiently isolate it from
> accidental contact with a foreigner.
>

That sounds like an awesome photograph!

Let me be clear, again, to at least remove myself from the FUD  
accusations that have been issued:
* I think it's a cool thing.
* I do worry when I run into things that say 'US citizen only'.
* I will be perfectly happy once Jake, as he has told us he will do,  
clarifies what we need to do to alleviate these worries. If this turns  
out - which wouldn't surprise me - to be "Don't use the machine if  
you're alien", then that settles it completely in my mind.

Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson, Dr.rer.nat
Postdoctoral researcher
mik at math.stanford.edu






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