[Noisebridge-discuss] (no subject)

Bill Pollock bill at nostarch.com
Sun Oct 18 18:33:46 UTC 2009


Okay  

Bill 
Sent from my mobile. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:28:37 
To: <bill at nostarch.com>
Cc: Al Billings<albill at openbuddha.com>; <Christoph.Maier at noisebridge.net>; <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] (no subject)

Noone's talking about the space falling apart.  We're talking about cleaning
up soda cans and half-eaten burritos.
--S

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Bill Pollock <bill at nostarch.com> wrote:

> We're not talking about cops. We're talking about members stepping up to
> make sure that the space doesn't fall apart.
>
> Bill
> Sent from my mobile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:21:36
> To: <bill at nostarch.com>
> Cc: <paul at boehm.org>; <Christoph.Maier at noisebridge.net>; <
> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] (no subject)
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Bill Pollock wrote:
>
> > Hi enki,
> >
> > One thing that I liked about the camp Engels was that they didn't
> > come off as policing. They were there to help and to keep an eye on
> > things. And when everyone was trashed at least one of them was
> > sober. And when a problem arose they could be counted on to step in.
>
>  Don't we call them "rangers" at Burning Man?
>
> > Certainly, these were time-limited, temporary roles, and the
> > parallel isn't a direct one. If NB were to consider such a thing I
> > imagine the roles might last only a few hours as in "I'll be at
> > space from 4 to 7 today and I'll wear the angel badge." in other
> > words, the role would rotate and could and should be adopted by
> > every member as part of one's contribution to the space. Maybe it
> > might be looked upon as a kind of designated driver.
> >
> > Believe me, as anyone who knows me well will attest, I am no fan of
> > authority. However, I'm concerned that the problems that I'm reading
> > about could spiral out of hand and threaten the success of
> > Noisebridge.
> >
> > When the space was small everyone saw everything. That's not the
> > case now though and it seems to me that something like a rotating,
> > super Noisebridge janitor might help.
>
> I really doubt that appointing cops for NB is going to make consensus.
> Who gets to choose them? What circumstances bring them about? What
> happens if I simply ignore them?
>
> Al
>
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