[Noisebridge-discuss] how to deal with abandoned beverage containers

[Michael Shiloh]

jim wrote:
> 
> i disagree. 

and i would defend your right to disagree!

> 
>    the idea is to make it simple for people to clean 
> up. there's a problem with cups, cans, and bottles 
> that have liquids in them: disposing of them requires 
> a walk to a sink 

true, in general, but there is a sink easily accessible in the large 
room. if the sink required a walk down the stairs, perhaps that would be 
different.

to me it's not black-and-white. it's all a matter of degree. hence the 
friendly reminders, and not being shot on first transgression. if i saw 
christie looking for her drink, i might politely say "i think you left 
it over there, where we were discussing the thrust necessary to put a 
pig into orbit..."

i think you having to think about, acquire, and bring in the containers 
is an effort that must be weighed relative to the effort needed to avoid 
  it in the first place.


>    make it easy to clean and more people will do it. 
> 


very true. but there is a limit. you know it won't end with the messy 
cups and burritos. do you want to spend all your time setting up systems 
to make it easy for people to clean up? do you think there is an end to 
this? the answer is no. at some point you have to put some of the 
responsibility back in the hands of those responsible. and by my 
measure, that point (in this particular topic) has been arrived at and 
passed.

YMMV