[Noisebridge-discuss] Pony & membership

[jim]

   i heard a rumor that NB may be going to labeled 
"buckets" rather than shelves. don't know the impact 
(might allow more stuff stored). 
   seems good to firm up policies re members and 
offer a bit more than the opportunity to block: 
storage, keys, possibly other things seem possibly 
good members-only perks. 
   we might get more people "pony"ing up if they 
perceive benefits come to those who pay. 
   having the place as open and welcoming as 
possible to non-members also seems a good thing.



On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 14:04 -0700, John Magolske wrote:
> * Sai Emrys <noisebridge at saizai.com> [090907 12:47]:
> > just to point out another resource/privilege that's currently
> > members-only: shelf space.
> 
> There was an informal consensus when we began having shelves for
> individuals (before we had a defined consensus process IIRC) that a
> member gets to write their name on one shelf so as to have a place
> to stash their tools, projects in process, etc, differentiating said
> items from commonly shared tools and hackable stuff.
> 
> I do hope that we continue with this policy going forward. The new
> space is larger, but it is finite. There will likely not be enough
> shelves for any and all visitors who'd like one. Already there are Nb
> members who don't have a shelf at 83c as there are no vacant shelves
> left. An informal "homesteading" policy around this strikes me as
> leading to sub-optimal dynamics where people are able to secure shelf
> space based solely on their ability to grab sooner and more decisively
> than others.
> 
> > Re. the new member FAQ, this line seems inaccurate from my undesrtanding:
> > >     * Participation in consensus decision making about issues
> > >     and matters dealing with the space during our weekly meetings.
> > Doesn't everyone present participate, and it's just members can also
> > block? 
> 
> I like Mitch's take that consensus is not so much about blocking,
> but more about dialog and conversation between holders of differing
> opinions regarding how things should be done so that we don't *need*
> to block. Blocking is a last resort.
> 
> But blocking a conveniently discrete and definable action. And by now,
> everyone has repeated "...the only privilege membership provides is
> the ability to block" so often & with such conviction that these words
> seem to carry the weight of being engraved in stone by the hand of
> $deity.
> 
> Of course any member can talk to anyone else on the planet to gain
> perspective on a given issue we're working through at Nb. And there
> are people who've brought a lot to the community over time but haven't
> gone through the actual process of becoming a member (sometimes due to
> financial constraints). But is the discussion/dialog/debate portion
> of our consensus process (the major portion) truly open to anyone who
> happens to walk through the door Tuesday evening?
> 
> - John
> 
>