[Noisebridge-discuss] Pony & membership

Mitch Altman maltman23 at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 8 00:26:59 UTC 2009


In a healthy consensus process, blocking really is best used only as a last resort.  

 

 

When a proposal is being discussed, discussion should continue if anyone senses that there is anyone with any objections.  So a call for consensus should really only happen when everyone senses that there are no objections strong enough to keep a proposal from being implemented.  So, the need for someone to block should hardly ever happen.  

 

 

But if a consensus is being called for, and someone feels they haven't been heard, or if they feel that they really would not want to be part of Noisebridge if the proposal went ahead as it currently stands, then they should then state their objections to keep the decision from being implemented as-is.  It is then up to the person to say how the proposal could be changed for them to be OK enough with it moving forward.

 

 

The idea is that proposals are only implemented that all Noisebridge members are OK with (and ideally, that everyone is happy with -- or, at least happy enough).

 

 

Make sense?

 

 

Mitch.

 

 


 

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> From: jim at well.com
> To: noisebridge at saizai.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:52:05 -0700
> CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Pony & membership
> 
> 
> 
> in my experience, blocking was mostly a means 
> to continue the conversation until issues were 
> negotiated satisfactorily. occasionally someone 
> blocked just to cause trouble (and get attention), 
> but not often (project one, mid-1970s). 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 14:23 -0700, Sai Emrys wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:04 PM, John Magolske<listmail at b79.net> wrote:
> > > I like Mitch's take that consensus is not so much about blocking,
> > > but more about dialog and conversation between holders of differing
> > > opinions regarding how things should be done so that we don't *need*
> > > to block. Blocking is a last resort.
> > 
> > I do too. I don't mean this to be any comment on the consensus
> > process, how to (not) use blocking, etc - just talking about what
> > membership privileges are(n't).
> > 
> > - Sai
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