[Noisebridge-discuss] recyclebridge

Sat Dec 18 02:05:48 UTC 2010

San Francisco has a (free?) composting program that can take a wider variety
of stuff than a backyard one could.
I also do not want a composting bin in the space. There's no reason to, and
plenty of reasons against.
M

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:22 PM, T <t at of.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 09:58, Zedd Epstein <zedd.00 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1) We're not allowed on the roof. It's not stable enough to have people
> > going up there to spin a composting bin.
> > 2) Compost bins smell Fucking Horrible. Do you guys remember what the
> banana
> > stairs smelled like? It'd be worse.
>
> Actually, if you do a worm farm, it hardly stinks at all.  A good one
> can be made with a few buckets.
>
> > 3) Compost bins also attract rats.
>
> Only if they can get to the stuff.  Put a lid on your compost bin.  It
> only has small holes.  Ants, though can be an issue.  Worm farm people
> recommend putting the worm farm on legs and the legs in containers
> containing water.  Ants won't cross that moat.
>
> > 4) I believe SF has a compost program in place. I'm betting we could call
> > and get a can to throw stuff in.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Smaller is better for composting.  Composting also needs some sort of
> >> lid, mainly for smell and sanitation reasons.
> >>
> >> I also had some sort of poorly thought-out idea that we'd keep the
> >> composting bin on the roof, also for sanitation reasons and to
> >> potentially use the sun to dry the stuff out.
> >>
> >> Maybe a small composting bin inside and a larger one on the roof.  I
> >> honestly don't know how composting works except that somehow you dry the
> >> natural waste, beat on it, and somehow end up with nitrogen deposits.
> >>
> >> The regular trash can is a 32-gallon bin that I moved from the shop area
> >> to the kitchen.  Any smaller size is just too small for the amount of
> >> trash that noisebridge generates on a daily basis.
> >>
> >> Your estimates about bin requirements all seem correct.
> >>
> >> I'm anxious to see us get a real recycling system in place!
> >>
> >> This is exciting!
> >>
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/16/2010 8:44 AM, jim wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     okay.
> >> >     i don't think a 30 gallon container is right for
> >> > composting, seems smaller would be better, yes? no?
> >> >     looks like
> >> > * 1 30 gallon container for aluminum cans
> >> > * 1 30 gallon container for paper
> >> > * 1 30 gallon container for glass bottles and only glass bottles
> >> > * some size container for composting
> >> > * other 30 gallon containers, maybe for other glass stuff,
> >> > ferrous metals...?
> >> >
> >> >     there's a "regular" trash can?
> >> >
> >> >     i'll try to check prices today.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 08:34 -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
> >> >> I've already given it some thought:
> >> >> * Containers should be the big 30-gallon containers so we don't need
> to
> >> >> empty them very often.  Like these:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://www.pricefalls.com/products/RUBBERMAID-32-GALLON-BLUE-BRUTE-%282632%29/id/12182889
> >> >>
> >> >> * Containers should be along the east wall by the bathrooms and
> >> >> adjacent
> >> >> to the kitchen, so they'll be near the regular trash can.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Patrick
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 12/16/2010 7:56 AM, jim wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>      i'm willing to chip in for some dedicated
> >> >>> containers. let's do it: figure out where in
> >> >>> the space the containers sit then get
> >> >>> whatever containers are the right size.
> >> >>>      how about redoing the space near the
> >> >>> elevator so it has room (and maybe some kind
> >> >>> of framing for upper-level storage)?
> >> >>>      as to me, it's too much trouble to try to
> >> >>> get the little money for recycled stuff. i'm
> >> >>> okay with just getting rid of it responsibly.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 00:22 -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
> >> >>>> I agree the logistics of getting the cans there would be tricky.
> >> >>>> But we're just talking about the aluminum cans... if we can figure
> >> >>>> out
> >> >>>> *WHERE* and *WHEN* to take them, we might can get somebody to loan
> a
> >> >>>> truck one day every week or two.
> >> >>>> A few places will even pay cash upon pick-up.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Patrick
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 12/16/2010 12:18 AM, Mark Ellis wrote:
> >> >>>>> I suggested this a while ago and unless you can figure something
> out
> >> >>>>> it was found the logistics of getting the redeemable stuff to a
> center was
> >> >>>>> more trouble than it was worth. Also there was some mention of
> some sorta
> >> >>>>> Mexican recycling gang...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Patrick Keys<citizenkeys at gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>  wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Is there a reason noisebridge doesn't recycle other than not
> having
> >> >>>>>> containers to properly divide recyclables (aluminum cans,
> >> >>>>>> paper/cardboard, composting, etc.)?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> If the only reason we're not recycling is the lack of containers,
> I
> >> >>>>>> will
> >> >>>>>> gladly pay for a few big 30-gallon trash bins so that people can
> >> >>>>>> throw
> >> >>>>>> away their recyclables in the proper container.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Glass bottles can (and are) re-used instead of thrown out.
> >> >>>>>> Paper/cardboard has no cash value (about one dollar per ton).
> >> >>>>>> Natural stuff can be turned into nitrogen-rich plant food with a
> >> >>>>>> little
> >> >>>>>> effort.
> >> >>>>>> Aluminum cans, however, could probably pay for at least part of
> our
> >> >>>>>> drinks if we recycled them. We just need to know when/where/how
> to
> >> >>>>>> trade
> >> >>>>>> cans for cash.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> If anybody knows when/where/how to trade our alumninum cans for
> >> >>>>>> cash,
> >> >>>>>> please say something.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Patrick
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