[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Executive Director

Zedd Epstein zedd.00 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 27 21:05:16 UTC 2010


There was only one person that blocked. She is not willing to change her
position for the good of the organization as a whole, and our version of
consensus doesn't allow us to just run her over. Therefore the only recourse
we have is to find someone else that we can all agree on.

Zedd

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Vlad Spears <spears at 2secondfuse.com>wrote:

> Was acceptance of attendance by remote means brought up in the
> meeting?  If so, it seems that should have ended the objection to
> Mitch as Executive Director.  At that point, why was the block
> retained by whoever blocked?
>
> It would be great if someone who actually blocked Mitch could speak up
> on this list.
>
> Vlad
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey Malone wrote:
>
> >> From my recollection, there have been only two board meetings in the
> > past 12 months.  Maybe three.
> > One week's notice is required to hold one, and I believe that is the
> > standard advanced warning.
> >
> > Attendance is perfectly acceptable via phone, or other electronic
> > means (as explicitly stated in our bylaws).
> >
> > Jeffrey
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:40 AM, dmolnar <dmolnar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> How many BOD meetings do we have?
> >> Are they frequent enough that it would be difficult to schedule
> >> attending in
> >> advance?
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:33 AM
> >> To: Vlad Spears <spears at 2secondfuse.com>
> >> Cc: Noisebridge Discussion List <
> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> >> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Executive Director
> >>
> >> IIRC there was only one point made for why Mitch wouldn't be the /
> >> best/
> >> choice (not that he wouldn't, for this one point, otherwise be a
> >> good ED)
> >> for ED and that's the fact that he travels a lot and wouldn't be
> >> able to
> >> attend the required BOD meetings all the time. Christie, who made
> >> the point,
> >> suggested Micholi (sp?) as he's at the space more often.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Vlad Spears
> >> <spears at 2secondfuse.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 27, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Ani Niow wrote:
> >>>
> >>> According to our bylaws
> >>> (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Bylaws#ARTICLE_V_OFFICERS), the
> >>> ED's only
> >>> responsibilities to preside over all board meetings and submit a
> >>> financial
> >>> report 120 days after the end of the fiscal year. Occasionally as
> >>> an officer
> >>> the ED may be asked to help or sign paperwork such as getting a
> >>> seller's
> >>> permit (which we've been trying to get for months but given the
> >>> unclear
> >>> status of if we have actually *had* an ED since October it has not
> >>> happened
> >>> yet). Other than that it's generally being an otherwise awesome
> >>> contributor
> >>> to Noisebridge.
> >>> What the arguing is about is that some people feel that the ED
> >>> should have
> >>> more responsibility, such as being an advocate for Noisebridge in
> >>> their
> >>> travels and being a representative of sorts. I disagree with this
> >>> view given
> >>> we are a collective without anyone being in a hierarchy, we should
> >>> all be
> >>> doing this job as members and contributors.
> >>>
> >>> So is this why Mitch was blocked as Executive Director?  These are
> >>> two
> >>> different issues.
> >>> Issue 1) We need an Executive Director now.
> >>> Issue 2) Later, after much discussion, let's affirm or redefine
> >>> exactly
> >>> what the Executive Director's role is.  If the person currently in
> >>> the role
> >>> at a point of redefinition cannot fulfill it, they can step down
> >>> and a new
> >>> Executive Director can be sought.
> >>> I'd like to point out while we are all advocates and
> >>> representatives of
> >>> Noisebridge in the wider world, it would be poor planning not to
> >>> account for
> >>> the fact our internal valuations do not match the wider world's
> >>> perceptions.
> >>>  Noisebridge members generally know that "Executive Director" does
> >>> not mean
> >>> "in charge" and is not a position of power.  The outside world
> >>> does not know
> >>> this, and assumes the inverse.  It seems particularly important,
> >>> then, to
> >>> have an Executive Director who is not just generally awesome as a
> >>> Noisebridge contributor, but can explain this to the outside world
> >>> while not
> >>> being prone to self-aggrandizement or assumption of power they do
> >>> not
> >>> actually wield.  This fits Mitch like a glove.
> >>> Again, who blocked Mitch and why?
> >>> Vlad
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Trying to fix or change something, only guarantees and perpetuates
> >> its
> >> existence.
> >>
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