[Noisebridge-discuss] Urinal

[Zedd Epstein]

It would be a room that would have a clothes washing machine, a clothes
drying machine, a sink, and a urinal in it. This would be in addition to the
restroom that is there and the ADA restroom that we are currently building.

Zedd

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm a little confused. are you proposing a small room in which there is a
> urinal, a sink, and nothing else? a male, pee-only, bathroom? or are you
> suggesting putting a sit down toilet in there too. if the former is the
> case: that's just silly. if it's the latter then if you plan to allow 2
> people to use the bathroom at the same time you'll need to put up partitions
> and a door for the sit down toilet. if it's intended for one person at a
> time with 2 toilet options then no partition is needed but it seems like
> only a slight increase in speed/cleanliness for men.
>
> so far i am for a urinal if the room it's in includes a sit down toilet and
> possibly has a partition and a door for said sit down toilet if this new
> bathroom is going to be intended for 2 people at a time. i'm still for it
> sans partition but not as much as you'd only be able to have one person use
> it at a time.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Jeffrey Malone <ieatlint at tehinterweb.com>wrote:
>
>> > Not really, no. You can't pee in a toilet? Why spend $350 to benefit
>> > only some members? We could better spend that money on facilities that
>> > everyone can use.
>>
>> I wasn't necessarily asking for Noisebridge to approve fund for this
>> -- although that is an option.  I was making a first step to see if
>> interest existed, and potentially interest for a few people to
>> volunteer some money.
>> The cost I quoted is a max amount, and it may be less.  The
>> installation of this will also not add any notable delays to the
>> completion of the toilets, which is part of why there is an
>> requirement that the materials be on-site on/by Thursday.
>>
>> I also believe, perhaps incorrectly, that this will benefit more than
>> just the male members/visitors.  In theory it could help clean the
>> toilets cleaner (especially of urine on the seat), and more available
>> to women.
>>
>>
>> > I'm never going to use the washer/dryer in the building, nor will I
>> benefit
>> > in any significant way from the induction range.  Yet my dues are paying
>> for
>> > them.  And will continue to pay the power to run them.
>> > Part of being a group is that we pay for other member's reasonable
>> > frivolities.
>>
>> I agree.  But I will note that the kitchen has been paid for by our
>> original buildout fundraiser.  From what I can tell, we are roughly at
>> the end of our budget from the buildout now.
>> All members and donors are continuing to pay for the electric cost,
>> however.
>>
>>
>> >> Personally, I like the idea of the urinal because it increases our
>> bathroom
>> >> bandwidth by at least 25%.  This matters when we hold big big events,
>> such
>> >> as 5MoF, parties, etc.
>> >
>> > Does it? I thought this was just for a urinal, not a separate
>> > room/partition with a urinal.
>> >
>> > Most people won't pee in the "same space" as someone else.
>>
>> It does.
>> As I noted in my original post:
>> > This could be installed in the room that is to contain the
>> > washer/dryer hookup
>>
>> This would be to go into a room separate from the bathrooms.  In the
>> plans is a room that will contain washer/dryer hookups, which has been
>> part of the plan for months.  It would be a separate room, and thus
>> people's privacy issues would be satisfied.  This is also why the cost
>> is so high -- a sink must also be installed, as there otherwise would
>> not be one in there.
>>
>>
>> Overall, there doesn't seem to be strong support from those who have
>> replied.
>> I would encourage others with opinions to share them, and will bring
>> it up as a short item at tomorrow's weekly meeting.
>>
>> If I don't have real support after the meeting, I'll let the idea die.
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey
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