[Noisebridge-discuss] Charging for classes at Noisebridge

Christie Dudley longobord at gmail.com
Sun Jul 18 11:28:40 UTC 2010


These are really important points Lief raised.  I think my worst nightmare
would be to see Noisebridge offering expensive and empty Wave-like classes.
 Then again, I think pretty much all of us agree on that one.  The question
is how close are we willing to get to it.

Yes, kickstarter is neat, but they take a cut.  I think Noisebridge could do
something along those lines, but *gasp* less formal and still make it work,
though.  Pledge pages on the wiki have worked well in the past.

Another side-concern off of that would be if some students pay and some
students don't, will instructors be teaching to the paying students?  That
would be a shame, and I'd hope none of the instructors who teach at
Noisebridge would do such a thing, but I've noticed such discrimination when
I've been in a "can't afford it" situation.

Is there a better way to establish formal classes with serious students than
to charge money?  When I was talking to Slim about his experience teaching
classes at Noisebridge vs. teaching classes at Academy of Art (correct me if
I've got the wrong school here), he was explaining to me how much
*more* serious
the Noisebridge students were than the (paying) art school students.  He had
a huge following for the entire time he ran the class.

I'm still on the fence here, myself.

Christie
_______
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The
latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to
hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
-- Albert Einstein


On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Thanks again for the great comments. I read all with interest.
>
> Observations:
>
> (1) There are aspects of excellence in both paid and un-paid classes.
> (2) Money might go all to teacher, all to NB, or shared. There are
> aspects of excellence at all ratios.
> (3) Casual students and informal classes are excellent. So are serious
> students and formal classes.
>
> I think I'll do a class again this coming Thursday. I think I'll put a
> donation jar somewhere. Any money found in it will go half to me and
> half to Noisebridge. This does not represent any agreement or
> disagreement with any of the points raised, but rather a reality if my
> needs.
>
>
> > --Naomi
> >
> > ps. Leif, your Kickstarter model idea is pretty brilliant.
>
> Yes, truly. +1.
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