[Noisebridge-discuss] Science for Juggalos

Rachel McConnell rachel at xtreme.com
Thu Jun 3 22:43:45 UTC 2010


You all just need to carry a little platform on a strap around your
neck, like the cigarette girls do at clubs.

Hephaestus wrote:
> To set up a table requires a $60 temporary occupancy permit from the
> DPW, $1,000,000 of liability insurance, and permission from the owners
> of any businesses to which it would be adjacent. If we don't set up a
> table, we can do it for free with less liability, and more police
> protection, as it can be presented as a 'protest'.
> 
> --
> Hephaestus
> 
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com> wrote:
>> is there a reason why a table can't be set up? as long as we're not selling
>> anything and we're not blocking foot traffic i don't see the problem.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:03 PM, doctor popular <yoyogenius at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> One other note from the meeting that I think is worth mentioning is
>>> that all signs and displays have to be held by the volunteers. So that
>>> means that no tables or self supporting displays.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> There was a meeting, it went well, and the discussion in the space
>>>> picked up a few people who hadn't already heard about the Science
>>>> Fair. The general consensus was that we don't necessarily want to
>>>> antagonize the juggalos, as this will give them even more reason to
>>>> hate rational thought, we just want to try to educate them.
>>>>
>>>> It was brought up that ICP has since stated that they understand the
>>>> things from the song are not 'miracles' in the definitive sense, but
>>>> are just wondrous things to observe, so any argument that "the
>>>> pyramids aren't miracles" would be counterproductive, and instead we
>>>> should focus on topics like "here's how the pyramids were built, isn't
>>>> engineering awesome?" We have scientists for at least the following:
>>>>
>>>> Fire
>>>> Magnets
>>>> Rainbows
>>>> Cognitive Dissonance
>>>> The Genetics of Long Necked Giraffes
>>>>
>>>> and we have more people interested who haven't yet called dibs on a
>>>> subject.
>>>>
>>>> We're going to show up Saturday at 4pm to make our science fair
>>>> posters and prepare, then leave around 5:30 to get on BART and head
>>>> down to the Warfield until it gets boring/dangerous, and then head
>>>> back to NB to get drunk, post the videos to youtube, and revel in our
>>>> success.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Hephaestus
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> wasn't there a meeting tonight? how'd that go? are details gonna be on
>>>>> the
>>>>> wiki or are they already?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Corey McGuire <coreyfro at coreyfro.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> This is exactly why I don't debate anyone studied enough to be adept
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> debating, yet incapable of doing the basic research to understand
>>>>>> concepts
>>>>>> like evolution or climate change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For instance: Kirk Cameron is a very skilled debater.  He's obviously
>>>>>> received training and spent many hours composing the arguments to be
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> against people who support the theory of evolution.  I've watched him
>>>>>> go toe
>>>>>> to toe at debates on his home turf, obviously entrapping the people
>>>>>> he's
>>>>>> debating.  These are obvious and intricate traps.  This man has made
>>>>>> it his
>>>>>> life's WORK getting scientists to generate media buzz for him and he
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> intend on backing down...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...yet he can't take a 10 minute journey though the Magical Land of
>>>>>> Google
>>>>>> to figure out why the "Croc-a-duck" argument is fucking retarded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They aren't looking to be right, they are looking for attention.  ICP,
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> record sales, Kirk Cameron, probably for political ambitions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I think everyone here should have fun.  You know you are
>>>>>> generating
>>>>>> more media buzz for ICP, but you are also going to have a wicked time,
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> your own slice of attention, and hopefully get Noisebridge a bunch,
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> Probably from the choir you are preaching to, probably a choir that
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> love to learn about and maybe even join or emulate Noisebridge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget the body armor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Rev. Dan <doktahworm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Has anyone considered the fact that more effort has been spent
>>>>>>> discussing this that will likely be spent thinking, at all, by folks
>>>>>>> who reject science in favor of willfull ignorance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the only real evangelism that can/ could happen would
>>>>>>> essentially just be preaching to the choir.  It sounds like this
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be fun for its own sake; but having expectations beyond dressing up
>>>>>>> and having a good time might be not be all that reasonable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be willing to wager that ICP wrote the song to be gratuitously
>>>>>>> controversial (ala GG Allin) and might well find the whole thing to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> entertaining.  (OMG, look at these "smart" people pissing themselves
>>>>>>> 'cause of our stupid song... bwuahahah... Woot, free publicity!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can lead a horse to water, but you can't convince him to do
>>>>>>> algebra.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Jesse Zbikowski
>>>>>>> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You might consider dressing as a wizard, because rainbows and
>>>>>>>> magnets
>>>>>>>> are surely, in addition to their well known physical properties,
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> magic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Science is at least as much about an awe of the mystery of the
>>>>>>>> universe as it is about learning explanations from other people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It might be more effective in evoking scientific curiosity to show
>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>> some cool magnet and rainbow effects, without any explanation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Don French <dcfrench at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Meant to send this to the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also worth watching:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy64NJWotg&feature=related
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Douglas Worley
>>>>>>>>> <daworley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> For reference:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&feature=youtube_gdata
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi08uLTOGxs&feature=youtube_gdata
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>   - Dougie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my tricorder.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Hephaestus
>>>>>>>>>> <hephaestus at antipunk.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Next Saturday, June 5th, is the ICP concert at the Warfield
>>>>>>>>>>> Theater on
>>>>>>>>>>> Market St.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That evening, between 6-9pm as the juggalos are gathering, but
>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully not too drunk and angry yet, we'll be setting up a
>>>>>>>>>>> science
>>>>>>>>>>> fair to teach them how magnets, rainbows, and giraffes work. If
>>>>>>>>>>> you'd
>>>>>>>>>>> like to help with this science fair, please come to NB next
>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday
>>>>>>>>>>> at 5pm with a science fair project (that's either cheap or not
>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>> broken). The theme of your project should reflect one of the
>>>>>>>>>>> 'miracles' in the latest ICP music video.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even if you don't want to demonstrate magnetism to juggalos, you
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> still participate, as we will need security and a camera crew to
>>>>>>>>>>> document the project.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Hephaestus
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