[Noisebridge-discuss] Science for Juggalos

Ever Falling everfalling at gmail.com
Thu Jun 3 22:44:49 UTC 2010


could you please provide the source of these requirements?

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:

> To set up a table requires a $60 temporary occupancy permit from the
> DPW, $1,000,000 of liability insurance, and permission from the owners
> of any businesses to which it would be adjacent. If we don't set up a
> table, we can do it for free with less liability, and more police
> protection, as it can be presented as a 'protest'.
>
> --
> Hephaestus
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > is there a reason why a table can't be set up? as long as we're not
> selling
> > anything and we're not blocking foot traffic i don't see the problem.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:03 PM, doctor popular <yoyogenius at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> One other note from the meeting that I think is worth mentioning is
> >> that all signs and displays have to be held by the volunteers. So that
> >> means that no tables or self supporting displays.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> > There was a meeting, it went well, and the discussion in the space
> >> > picked up a few people who hadn't already heard about the Science
> >> > Fair. The general consensus was that we don't necessarily want to
> >> > antagonize the juggalos, as this will give them even more reason to
> >> > hate rational thought, we just want to try to educate them.
> >> >
> >> > It was brought up that ICP has since stated that they understand the
> >> > things from the song are not 'miracles' in the definitive sense, but
> >> > are just wondrous things to observe, so any argument that "the
> >> > pyramids aren't miracles" would be counterproductive, and instead we
> >> > should focus on topics like "here's how the pyramids were built, isn't
> >> > engineering awesome?" We have scientists for at least the following:
> >> >
> >> > Fire
> >> > Magnets
> >> > Rainbows
> >> > Cognitive Dissonance
> >> > The Genetics of Long Necked Giraffes
> >> >
> >> > and we have more people interested who haven't yet called dibs on a
> >> > subject.
> >> >
> >> > We're going to show up Saturday at 4pm to make our science fair
> >> > posters and prepare, then leave around 5:30 to get on BART and head
> >> > down to the Warfield until it gets boring/dangerous, and then head
> >> > back to NB to get drunk, post the videos to youtube, and revel in our
> >> > success.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Hephaestus
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> wasn't there a meeting tonight? how'd that go? are details gonna be
> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> wiki or are they already?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Corey McGuire <
> coreyfro at coreyfro.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is exactly why I don't debate anyone studied enough to be adept
> >> >>> at
> >> >>> debating, yet incapable of doing the basic research to understand
> >> >>> concepts
> >> >>> like evolution or climate change.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For instance: Kirk Cameron is a very skilled debater.  He's
> obviously
> >> >>> received training and spent many hours composing the arguments to be
> >> >>> used
> >> >>> against people who support the theory of evolution.  I've watched
> him
> >> >>> go toe
> >> >>> to toe at debates on his home turf, obviously entrapping the people
> >> >>> he's
> >> >>> debating.  These are obvious and intricate traps.  This man has made
> >> >>> it his
> >> >>> life's WORK getting scientists to generate media buzz for him and he
> >> >>> doesn't
> >> >>> intend on backing down...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ...yet he can't take a 10 minute journey though the Magical Land of
> >> >>> Google
> >> >>> to figure out why the "Croc-a-duck" argument is fucking retarded.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> They aren't looking to be right, they are looking for attention.
> ICP,
> >> >>> for
> >> >>> record sales, Kirk Cameron, probably for political ambitions.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> But I think everyone here should have fun.  You know you are
> >> >>> generating
> >> >>> more media buzz for ICP, but you are also going to have a wicked
> time,
> >> >>> get
> >> >>> your own slice of attention, and hopefully get Noisebridge a bunch,
> >> >>> too.
> >> >>> Probably from the choir you are preaching to, probably a choir that
> >> >>> would
> >> >>> love to learn about and maybe even join or emulate Noisebridge.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Don't forget the body armor.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Rev. Dan <doktahworm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Has anyone considered the fact that more effort has been spent
> >> >>>> discussing this that will likely be spent thinking, at all, by
> folks
> >> >>>> who reject science in favor of willfull ignorance?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I think the only real evangelism that can/ could happen would
> >> >>>> essentially just be preaching to the choir.  It sounds like this
> >> >>>> could
> >> >>>> be fun for its own sake; but having expectations beyond dressing up
> >> >>>> and having a good time might be not be all that reasonable.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I'd be willing to wager that ICP wrote the song to be gratuitously
> >> >>>> controversial (ala GG Allin) and might well find the whole thing to
> >> >>>> be
> >> >>>> entertaining.  (OMG, look at these "smart" people pissing
> themselves
> >> >>>> 'cause of our stupid song... bwuahahah... Woot, free publicity!)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> You can lead a horse to water, but you can't convince him to do
> >> >>>> algebra.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> - Dan
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Jesse Zbikowski
> >> >>>> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > You might consider dressing as a wizard, because rainbows and
> >> >>>> > magnets
> >> >>>> > are surely, in addition to their well known physical properties,
> >> >>>> > also
> >> >>>> > magic.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Science is at least as much about an awe of the mystery of the
> >> >>>> > universe as it is about learning explanations from other people.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > It might be more effective in evoking scientific curiosity to
> show
> >> >>>> > off
> >> >>>> > some cool magnet and rainbow effects, without any explanation.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Don French <dcfrench at gmail.com>
> >> >>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>> >> Meant to send this to the list.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> -- Don
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Also worth watching:
> >> >>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy64NJWotg&feature=related
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> -- Don
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Douglas Worley
> >> >>>> >> <daworley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> For reference:
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&feature=youtube_gdata
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi08uLTOGxs&feature=youtube_gdata
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>>> >>>   - Dougie
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> Sent from my tricorder.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> On May 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Hephaestus
> >> >>>> >>> <hephaestus at antipunk.net>
> >> >>>> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Next Saturday, June 5th, is the ICP concert at the Warfield
> >> >>>> >>>> Theater on
> >> >>>> >>>> Market St.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> That evening, between 6-9pm as the juggalos are gathering, but
> >> >>>> >>>> hopefully not too drunk and angry yet, we'll be setting up a
> >> >>>> >>>> science
> >> >>>> >>>> fair to teach them how magnets, rainbows, and giraffes work.
> If
> >> >>>> >>>> you'd
> >> >>>> >>>> like to help with this science fair, please come to NB next
> >> >>>> >>>> Saturday
> >> >>>> >>>> at 5pm with a science fair project (that's either cheap or not
> >> >>>> >>>> easily
> >> >>>> >>>> broken). The theme of your project should reflect one of the
> >> >>>> >>>> 'miracles' in the latest ICP music video.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Even if you don't want to demonstrate magnetism to juggalos,
> you
> >> >>>> >>>> can
> >> >>>> >>>> still participate, as we will need security and a camera crew
> to
> >> >>>> >>>> document the project.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> --
> >> >>>> >>>> Hephaestus
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> >
> >
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