[Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal: Discounted full-year dues

[Rachel McConnell]

oooh I had no idea!  yeah i'll get in touch with them right away.  i did
search various open source repos and found nothing useful...

Christie Dudley wrote:
> Katie from Hacker Dojo was mentioning they'd put together a complete
> open source package for managing things, including payment tracking and
> so forth that they're interested in sharing.  It might not be a bad
> idea, and foster a bit of goodwill if we at least had a look at that,
> don't you think?
> 
> The problem may already be solved for us.
> 
> Christie
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> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com
> <mailto:rachel at xtreme.com>> wrote:
> 
>     It's all done by hand right now, there's no automation.  I mean the bank
>     account (and paypal, etc) tracks that $X has shown up, but there isn't
>     any system to associate it with a particular member.  Sometimes a
>     payment comes with a note; if it's a check you have to go look at the
>     name on the check, etc.
> 
>     jim wrote:
>     >    Y'all have reminded me of payment, so there must
>     > be some tracking in place, yes?
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 10:29 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
>     >> I like this in theory but in practice it would be folly to officially
>     >> promote it until we have an accounting system that can support it.
>     >> Already we don't know who is paid up and who isn't; work is
>     underway on
>     >> a system to manage this but let's get it working first before we make
>     >> massive changes to it.
>     >>
>     >> Rachel
>     >>
>     >> jim wrote:
>     >>>    (seems like a discussion of policy.)
>     >>>    per the proposal and the points:
>     >>> * how much to discount for a one year pre-payment seems
>     >>> the difficult part: too little and no one goes for it;
>     >>> too big and we miss out on possible income; variable
>     >>> (maybe within some limits, hoping for generosity) may
>     >>> work....
>     >>> * if we don't have a "real accounting system", as long
>     >>> as we can track payments with respect to members, this
>     >>> seems a non-issue. for example, i pay by the quarter
>     >>> and haven't had any problems. if a payment is recorded
>     >>> as income for the current month, is there a tax
>     >>> implication?
>     >>> * we should certainly try to help our current cash
>     >>> crunch"; the overall downward trend scares me.
>     >>> * grabbing a year's supply of money may help the
>     >>> initially excited retain their interest over a longer
>     >>> time period, which seems an additional value.
>     >>> * i'm not convinced of your arithmetic, but certainly
>     >>> money today is worth a fair amount more than money
>     >>> some later day, especially if there's some question
>     >>> about getting money on those later days. a real
>     >>> answer to this might help settle the discount problem.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 09:49 -0700, Shannon Lee wrote:
>     >>>> Hi All,
>     >>>> This idea has been brought up at several meetings now and no
>     >>>> satisfactory resolution reached, so obviously it's time to
>     expand the
>     >>>> conversation!
>     >>>> The specific proposal brought up last night was this:
>     >>>> If you pay your dues a year at a time, you can knock $20 off.
>     Or one
>     >>>> month's dues off. Or some amount of money.
>     >>>> Many perspectives were voiced on this.  I think it's a good idea;
>     >>>> others disagreed, primarily because, as we do not have a real
>     >>>> accounting system, this amounts to counting a year's dues as this
>     >>>> month's revenue.
>     >>>> Again, I think this is a good idea, for the following reasons:
>     >>>> * it could help with our current cash cruch
>     >>>> * it means that people who get very excited about noisebridge
>     for just
>     >>>> long enough to be members and then never show up again have the
>     >>>> opportunity to pay a whole year's membership upfront
>     >>>> * the economic value of a bird in one's hand is double that of
>     a bird
>     >>>> in a bush
>     >>>> Thoughts?
>     >>>> --
>     >>>> Shannon Lee
>     >>>> (503) 539-3700
>     >>>>
>     >>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from
>     science."
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