[Noisebridge-discuss] Flooring work! Next step sanding, you are needed!

[jim]

   i have a little hand orbital sander with a little 
vacuum bag as well as a disk grinder with no vacuum 
bag. i don't think hand-sanders put out as much dust 
as the floor sanders, so vacuum attachments aren't 
important. Note that the "good" vacuum (not the 
crappy shop vac) has a fitting that hooks up to hand 
tools, tho' likely the hand tools must have a 
compliant fitting and there's the question of a hose 
(do we have one in the dirty shop?). 
   i have a pole sander and a block hand sander. 
these take more muscle, but they might work. 
   there's the question of sand paper: i'm guessing 
that 50 grit is right for the first pass, maybe 40, 
probably not 36; for the first pass 60 might be a 
little too fine, i.e. take too much work and time to 
bring things level. 60 grit is probably right for a 
second pass. normally floors are finished with 80 
grit or finer, but i think 60 will be okay for 
finish. 
   i have some sandpaper, don't know how much, 
certainly not enough 40-50 to do the whole floor. 

   a reminder of build-out policy, at least as i 
understand it: people can bring their personal tools 
and stash them at NB with the expectation that no 
one will use them without owner's permission; the 
condition is that the owner somehow labels the tools. 
   we're still in build-out mode. i'd like to see 
a change: all the materials and tools in the main 
walkway by the cooking area could be moved into the 
two rooms still under construction. i'm guessing 
the stuff was moved out of there to the main 
walkway so's to work on the walls in the rooms; if 
so, maybe we can supercharge that effort as we did 
the floors at least so's to get enough done that 
what remains to do is only "spot" sections. 






On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:56 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> Thanks Jim and Frantisek, you have done awesome work!  Much appreciated!
> 
> Current update: puttying is done except for a few places that were deep
> and need another coat.  Goop smearers were somewhat diligent, the
> majority of the floor is fairly even and smooth but there are some areas
> with blobs.  We put the canvas on the floor again by the bathroom, and
> put up strings and signs to help encourage Not walking on until it's
> finished.  Huge thanks to Quirk who not only vaccuumed & puttied the
> whole day but also brought cookies for the helpers.  Props to all those
> who helped: Hephaestus, Miah, Sai, Eric, Mikolaj, Christopher, Paul ...
> you all rock!
> 
> Jim are there any hand sanders that have vaccuums attached like the Big
> one?  If so I think it's totally worth attempting those.
> 
> Next step: sanding!  I could not find any hand sanders except the little
> tiny crappy one I found in an alley sometime last year... anyone who has
> an orbital sander and wants to put in a little time with it, please do
> so!  And can we borrow it for the next person, too?
> 
> If you can sand or just loan a sander, please reply to the list; if I
> don't hear from anyone in the next day or two we'll assume we've got to
> rent the floor sander again but I'd love to save the money.
> 
> Rachel
> 
> jim wrote:
> > [Friday 20100618:18:47] 
> > initial sanding is done. 
> >    used 20 grit for the first passes, 36 grit for the 
> > last pass.
> >    costs $76.82, rachel paid $50. 
> >    took about 4 hours, Frantisek did about 2 of them. 
> > 
> >    canvas is on the floor between the kitchen and the 
> > toilet room; i put stuff along the side to suggest 
> > "don't walk over there". 
> > 
> > filling: 
> > * there are some big cracks that should be filled 
> > with wood plugs before applying goop. 
> > * goop smearers should try to force the goop into 
> > the cracks and holes and scrape any material off 
> > the surface. 
> > 
> > post-filling: 
> > * we'll have to sand the floor after the goop dries. 
> >    if goop smearers will have been diligent, then 
> > we can use hand-sanders. 
> >    if goop smearers left goop above the surface of 
> > the wood, then we'll have to rent the sander again 
> > (for another $75 or so plus getting and lifting and 
> > returning...). 
> > * after sanding of whatever nature, we'll seal it. 
> > * after the sealer dries, we'll put down a couple 
> > of coats of floor finish (water-base is good and 
> > cures fast (polyurethane takes over a week to cure). 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 01:02 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> >> The current state of the floor is this.  Jim is planning to do rough
> >> sanding tomorrow (Friday) morning, and he will put down some paper for
> >> the walking on if you REALLY HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM...  Thanks Jim
> >> you rock!
> >>
> >> The next step is to fill the cracks with putty.  I will be at
> >> Noisebridge most of the day Sunday doing this, and Quirk has also
> >> volunteered to help with this.  She has additionally promised to bring
> >> home made cookies for anyone else who assists (yay Quirk!), so come
> >> help!  We could use two or three more sets of hands.
> >>
> >> If you want to help but can't come Sunday, only Friday afternoon/evening
> >> or Saturday, that's great:
> >>
> >> Puttying is very simple. You just stick a putty knife in the putty and
> >> slather it over the cracks, divots, & low spots.  Don't cover the entire
> >> floor surface, and try not to leave lumps, but lumps can be wiped off
> >> pretty easily with a damp cloth after the putty has started to dry, if
> >> necessary.
> >>
> >> Putty knives are in the dirty shop on the metal shelves, right side, one
> >> of the upper shelves, in a ?yellow plastic bin.  It's above head height
> >> (for me) but you can see the handles sticking up.  Putty is in gallon
> >> buckets on the floor, in the main corridor going back, on the right (as
> >> you face the back of the space), quite near the floor parts in question.
> >> It's called something like Wood Filler, I forget exactly, it shouldn't
> >> be hard to find.  There are 3 buckets one of which is only half full.
> >>
> >> Cleanup is with soap and water as long as the putty hasn't hardened
> >> (which takes a couple hours).
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Rachel
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