[Noisebridge-discuss] Flooring work! Next step sanding, you are needed!

Tue Jun 22 03:09:42 UTC 2010

I also have a little hand random orbital sander with a bag.  I also have a
detail sander for those who are very detail-oriented (a term I prefer over
"pedantic") that'll get into even the tightest corners.  (I got it for
refinishing my staircase, which had a great deal of corners.)  I don't know
what needs to be sanded, so I'm not sure if it'll be useful or not.

I'll try to pop by soon - maybe Wednesday? to see what I can do.

Christie
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:57 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
>   i have a little hand orbital sander with a little
> vacuum bag as well as a disk grinder with no vacuum
> bag. i don't think hand-sanders put out as much dust
> as the floor sanders, so vacuum attachments aren't
> important. Note that the "good" vacuum (not the
> crappy shop vac) has a fitting that hooks up to hand
> tools, tho' likely the hand tools must have a
> compliant fitting and there's the question of a hose
> (do we have one in the dirty shop?).
>   i have a pole sander and a block hand sander.
> these take more muscle, but they might work.
>   there's the question of sand paper: i'm guessing
> that 50 grit is right for the first pass, maybe 40,
> probably not 36; for the first pass 60 might be a
> little too fine, i.e. take too much work and time to
> bring things level. 60 grit is probably right for a
> second pass. normally floors are finished with 80
> grit or finer, but i think 60 will be okay for
> finish.
>   i have some sandpaper, don't know how much,
> certainly not enough 40-50 to do the whole floor.
>
>   a reminder of build-out policy, at least as i
> understand it: people can bring their personal tools
> and stash them at NB with the expectation that no
> one will use them without owner's permission; the
> condition is that the owner somehow labels the tools.
>   we're still in build-out mode. i'd like to see
> a change: all the materials and tools in the main
> walkway by the cooking area could be moved into the
> two rooms still under construction. i'm guessing
> the stuff was moved out of there to the main
> walkway so's to work on the walls in the rooms; if
> so, maybe we can supercharge that effort as we did
> the floors at least so's to get enough done that
> what remains to do is only "spot" sections.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:56 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> > Thanks Jim and Frantisek, you have done awesome work!  Much appreciated!
> >
> > Current update: puttying is done except for a few places that were deep
> > and need another coat.  Goop smearers were somewhat diligent, the
> > majority of the floor is fairly even and smooth but there are some areas
> > with blobs.  We put the canvas on the floor again by the bathroom, and
> > put up strings and signs to help encourage Not walking on until it's
> > finished.  Huge thanks to Quirk who not only vaccuumed & puttied the
> > whole day but also brought cookies for the helpers.  Props to all those
> > who helped: Hephaestus, Miah, Sai, Eric, Mikolaj, Christopher, Paul ...
> > you all rock!
> >
> > Jim are there any hand sanders that have vaccuums attached like the Big
> > one?  If so I think it's totally worth attempting those.
> >
> > Next step: sanding!  I could not find any hand sanders except the little
> > tiny crappy one I found in an alley sometime last year... anyone who has
> > an orbital sander and wants to put in a little time with it, please do
> > so!  And can we borrow it for the next person, too?
> >
> > If you can sand or just loan a sander, please reply to the list; if I
> > don't hear from anyone in the next day or two we'll assume we've got to
> > rent the floor sander again but I'd love to save the money.
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > jim wrote:
> > > [Friday 20100618:18:47]
> > > initial sanding is done.
> > >    used 20 grit for the first passes, 36 grit for the
> > > last pass.
> > >    costs $76.82, rachel paid $50.
> > >    took about 4 hours, Frantisek did about 2 of them.
> > >
> > >    canvas is on the floor between the kitchen and the
> > > toilet room; i put stuff along the side to suggest
> > > "don't walk over there".
> > >
> > > filling:
> > > * there are some big cracks that should be filled
> > > with wood plugs before applying goop.
> > > * goop smearers should try to force the goop into
> > > the cracks and holes and scrape any material off
> > > the surface.
> > >
> > > post-filling:
> > > * we'll have to sand the floor after the goop dries.
> > >    if goop smearers will have been diligent, then
> > > we can use hand-sanders.
> > >    if goop smearers left goop above the surface of
> > > the wood, then we'll have to rent the sander again
> > > (for another $75 or so plus getting and lifting and
> > > returning...).
> > > * after sanding of whatever nature, we'll seal it.
> > > * after the sealer dries, we'll put down a couple
> > > of coats of floor finish (water-base is good and
> > > cures fast (polyurethane takes over a week to cure).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 01:02 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> > >> The current state of the floor is this.  Jim is planning to do rough
> > >> sanding tomorrow (Friday) morning, and he will put down some paper for
> > >> the walking on if you REALLY HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM...  Thanks Jim
> > >> you rock!
> > >>
> > >> The next step is to fill the cracks with putty.  I will be at
> > >> Noisebridge most of the day Sunday doing this, and Quirk has also
> > >> volunteered to help with this.  She has additionally promised to bring
> > >> home made cookies for anyone else who assists (yay Quirk!), so come
> > >> help!  We could use two or three more sets of hands.
> > >>
> > >> If you want to help but can't come Sunday, only Friday
> afternoon/evening
> > >> or Saturday, that's great:
> > >>
> > >> Puttying is very simple. You just stick a putty knife in the putty and
> > >> slather it over the cracks, divots, & low spots.  Don't cover the
> entire
> > >> floor surface, and try not to leave lumps, but lumps can be wiped off
> > >> pretty easily with a damp cloth after the putty has started to dry, if
> > >> necessary.
> > >>
> > >> Putty knives are in the dirty shop on the metal shelves, right side,
> one
> > >> of the upper shelves, in a ?yellow plastic bin.  It's above head
> height
> > >> (for me) but you can see the handles sticking up.  Putty is in gallon
> > >> buckets on the floor, in the main corridor going back, on the right
> (as
> > >> you face the back of the space), quite near the floor parts in
> question.
> > >> It's called something like Wood Filler, I forget exactly, it shouldn't
> > >> be hard to find.  There are 3 buckets one of which is only half full.
> > >>
> > >> Cleanup is with soap and water as long as the putty hasn't hardened
> > >> (which takes a couple hours).
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> Rachel
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