[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Frantisek is going to stop living at Noisebridge starting tonight.

[Corey McGuire]

See, normally I avoid drama as much as possible.  I mean, I try not to step
in it...I'm always watching my feet to make sure I don't end up with sticky,
stinky, festering drama on my shoes...

...but now I am jumping in head first.

What is going on here is, a really nice guy is being publicly (and pubicly)
cock punched, repeatedly, over his reliance on a community he contributes
to...

I mean, I've punched a few puppies in my day, and there was the unfortunate
incident when I accidentally dropped a kitten in a blender (I was just
trying to scare it, HONEST!) but never have I cock punched a charitable
person publicly like this...now this is on *his and the community's
conscience*.

When you sacrifice so much for a community, it is not only natural, but
necessary to use that community to fulfil some of the needs displaced by the
sacrifice.

Maybe that sacrifice is misplaced and undesired.  I am sure we've all done
that...should we all be publicly bashed over it?

No.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Corey McGuire <coreyfro at coreyfro.com>wrote:

> I did.  I was being facetious.  But isn't that what is being said?  Isn't
> that what he is being called?
>
> My point being, obviously this guy is working very hard and is an active
> member of the community, paying or not.  He's running projects, keeping them
> clean, keeping the place clean, he's not disturbing anyone.
>
> It's the beef that he is setting a bad example?  Is the fear that NB is
> suddenly going to be inundated with people that follow in his foot steps:
> being overly nice, doing good work, hacking on cool shit, and then crashing
> on a couch?
>
> It just seems to me Frantisek is a scape goat and that the anger over
> Llama <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=llama&defid=1458855>is being displaced on to him.  Where is the excellence in that?
>
> My personal perspective of NB, he is as molded for NB as is anyone else.
> More than me at least, and no one has told me to get off a fucking couch.
>
> Is it habitual?  How does that matter?
>
> How do you run a 24 hour hacker space, then put limits on how long a person
> stays there?
>
> Is it theft for him to not pay rent, here?  Is it theft that people running
> a legitimate business and making profits off of work done here aren't also
> paying rent?
>
> Is it a problem, legally? I think that is the only valid concern.
>
> Well, all concerns are valid, but I think that is the most universal one.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Albert Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> > Dude is cleaning the place and has been for the past half hour. He'll
>> > probably cook something later today.  A few more of these "fucking bums"
>> and
>> > this place will be ready for Sunset Magazine.
>>
>> Corey, who's called Frantisek a "fucking bum"? I seriously want to
>> have a talk with them.
>>
>> -Al
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