[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Frantisek is going to stop living at Noisebridge starting tonight.
jim
jim at systemateka.com
Wed Nov 17 20:26:42 UTC 2010
i think you went a little over the top in interpreting
the comment stream. i raise the point generally: it seems
common, and maybe reflection (ack: even re-reading the
old comments to allow reinterpretation) would bring you
to agree--if so, we might be able to identify the fact
more easily in other conversations and take it easy with
our own reactions.
i find that not taking things seriously generally is
freeing, often with a clarifying effect.
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 11:53 -0800, Corey McGuire wrote:
> I did. I was being facetious. But isn't that what is being said?
> Isn't that what he is being called?
>
> My point being, obviously this guy is working very hard and is an
> active member of the community, paying or not. He's running projects,
> keeping them clean, keeping the place clean, he's not disturbing
> anyone.
>
> It's the beef that he is setting a bad example? Is the fear that NB
> is suddenly going to be inundated with people that follow in his foot
> steps: being overly nice, doing good work, hacking on cool shit, and
> then crashing on a couch?
>
> It just seems to me Frantisek is a scape goat and that the anger over
> Llama is being displaced on to him. Where is the excellence in that?
>
> My personal perspective of NB, he is as molded for NB as is anyone
> else. More than me at least, and no one has told me to get off a
> fucking couch.
>
> Is it habitual? How does that matter?
>
> How do you run a 24 hour hacker space, then put limits on how long a
> person stays there?
>
> Is it theft for him to not pay rent, here? Is it theft that people
> running a legitimate business and making profits off of work done here
> aren't also paying rent?
>
> Is it a problem, legally? I think that is the only valid concern.
>
> Well, all concerns are valid, but I think that is the most universal
> one.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Albert Sweigart
> <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dude is cleaning the place and has been for the past half
> hour. He'll
> > probably cook something later today. A few more of these
> "fucking bums" and
> > this place will be ready for Sunset Magazine.
>
> Corey, who's called Frantisek a "fucking bum"? I seriously
> want to
> have a talk with them.
>
> -Al
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