[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Frantisek is going to stop living at Noisebridge starting tonight.

Corey McGuire coreyfro at coreyfro.com
Wed Nov 17 20:39:41 UTC 2010


When the thread is "[name of person] is [offending action]" it is hardly
general.

Just saying.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:26 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:

> all
>   i think you went a little over the top in interpreting
> the comment stream. i raise the point generally: it seems
> common, and maybe reflection (ack: even re-reading the
> old comments to allow reinterpretation) would bring you
> to agree--if so, we might be able to identify the fact
> more easily in other conversations and take it easy with
> our own reactions.
>   i find that not taking things seriously generally is
> freeing, often with a clarifying effect.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 11:53 -0800, Corey McGuire wrote:
> > I did.  I was being facetious.  But isn't that what is being said?
> > Isn't that what he is being called?
> >
> > My point being, obviously this guy is working very hard and is an
> > active member of the community, paying or not.  He's running projects,
> > keeping them clean, keeping the place clean, he's not disturbing
> > anyone.
> >
> > It's the beef that he is setting a bad example?  Is the fear that NB
> > is suddenly going to be inundated with people that follow in his foot
> > steps: being overly nice, doing good work, hacking on cool shit, and
> > then crashing on a couch?
> >
> > It just seems to me Frantisek is a scape goat and that the anger over
> > Llama is being displaced on to him.  Where is the excellence in that?
> >
> > My personal perspective of NB, he is as molded for NB as is anyone
> > else. More than me at least, and no one has told me to get off a
> > fucking couch.
> >
> > Is it habitual?  How does that matter?
> >
> > How do you run a 24 hour hacker space, then put limits on how long a
> > person stays there?
> >
> > Is it theft for him to not pay rent, here?  Is it theft that people
> > running a legitimate business and making profits off of work done here
> > aren't also paying rent?
> >
> > Is it a problem, legally? I think that is the only valid concern.
> >
> > Well, all concerns are valid, but I think that is the most universal
> > one.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Albert Sweigart
> > <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         > Dude is cleaning the place and has been for the past half
> >         hour. He'll
> >         > probably cook something later today.  A few more of these
> >         "fucking bums" and
> >         > this place will be ready for Sunset Magazine.
> >
> >         Corey, who's called Frantisek a "fucking bum"? I seriously
> >         want to
> >         have a talk with them.
> >
> >         -Al
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