[Noisebridge-discuss] [Health] So, how many people live at noisebridge now?

[Viona Jynn Louie]

One of the main reason I don't even come by Noisebridge any more is because
I'm so paranoid of bringing fleas or bed bugs home.  I used to (and for the
most part, still do) avoid sitting on anything that isn't plastic when I'm
in the space. :(

Generous doses of DDT for everything and everyone! Give me access to some
and I'll gladly spray everything down!

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com> wrote:

> ha ha ha. oh wow. so i make a suggestion, something anyone can take or
> leave and is not any sort of demand or insistence, and i get sarcasm and
> scorn? and I'M part of the problem? how does that work?
>
> no. you people are part of 'the problem' (whatever the fuck that means).
> wanna scare off new members? wanna see people drop from the ranks because of
> bullshit (pre-labeled, in this case) drama threads like this? you're doing a
> fine job getting there by attacking those just trying to help.
>
> go back and read what i wrote. go on. Did you read it? Show me where i
> demanded that someone put covers on the couch. i never said YOU do it. i
> never said I'D do it. i just said it might be a possible alternative to
> throwing out the couches and why. that's it. if i wanted to do it i'd say so
> and if i thought i had the right to demand someone else do it for me i might
> have said that too but i wouldn't because i don't.
>
> So much for noisebridge being a haven for ideas and creativity if you get
> yelled at every time you have an idea out loud that might improve something
> even if you don't have the time or capacity to do it yourself and you leave
> it in the open in case someone else thinks it's also a good idea and decides
> they might wanna work on it.
>
> So next time someone makes a suggestion you should sincerely thank them for
> their contribution to the discussion and problem solving of the issue and
> then you either do what they suggest or don't. end of fucking discussion.
> What you absolutely should not do is write passive aggressive emails
> 'thanking' them for 'volunteering' to do it or yelling at them outright for
> daring to put forth any ideas whatsoever without spearheading it themselves.
>
> but that's just my opinion. you can take it or leave it or go fuck yourself
> if you don't like it for whatever reason. in this case this IS something i'm
> willing to do and hey, guess what? i already do it. it's called being a
> decent person.
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 03:15:42PM -0700, Ever Falling wrote:
>> > "Noisebridge has always been short on project managers; it's good to
>> > see someone stepping up to the role and helping organize things and
>> > direct some of the aimless creative energy we have lying around.  Let
>> > us know when you can have the couch solution you proposed implemented,
>> > it should be a huge improvement!"
>> >
>> > it amazes me how much effort people will put into writing worthless
>> > passive aggressive shit like this.
>>
>> It amazes me how much you don't get the point.
>>
>> We do not need people telling us what to do.  (Many of us have day jobs
>> for that.)
>>
>> If someone says "I am going to do X", a response of "No, you should do
>> Y instead, but I can't be bothered to help" is going to get you mocked.
>>
>> The correct response is "I think Y would be better, and I am going to do
>> it.  Would you like to help?"
>>
>> If you can't honestly include the "I do", I hope you won't send your
>> message to noisebridge-discuss.  You're part of the problem.  Become
>> part of the solution instead.
>>
>> I'd rather have one person doing something -- even if poorly, and even
>> if it's not the solution I would have chosen -- than a hundred people
>> telling each other what to do.
>>
>> HTH, HAND.
>>
>> -andy
>>
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> existence.
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