[Noisebridge-discuss] So, how many people live at noisebridge now?

[jim]

   again, well said. 
   the tho't occurs that we might try something together 
to clean the place in various ways: something spontaneous, 
maybe, like Ten Minutes of Cleaning: Everybody Up! 
   another tho't is if the uncomfortable feeling comes 
upon oneself, mention it to some other self with whom one 
is comfortable and try to help each other either become 
comfortable or deal in a comfortable way. 
   my experience in other communities suggests that for 
the community to survive there must be a core that has 
good morale. The first step is to accept each other, then 
to ask for help with little, trivial things, and respond 
if asked. talking develops, bonds form, the sense of 
community and shared values develops, apparent to all. 

   ...not that i'm suggesting that we institutionalize 
anything... just get to where any of us can occasionally 
call out for help with some common issue (garbage, dishes, 
infrastructure, lack of toilet paper, uncomfortable 
perceptions... with the expectation that a few others may 
be willing to help. 

   (i can't help myself: 
   occasionally someone suggests something be done and 
someone else responds along the lines of "that's a good 
idea, tell us when you've <done_it || got_things_ready>, 
which i think is a poor response. better might be "that 
sounds good, i can help with that, too." seems to me that 
"that sounds like a dumb idea to me" is also acceptable, 
essentially can start a discussion). 



On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 13:32 -0700, meredith scheff wrote:
> 
> note: I have not read all the responses. 
> 
> 
> Im glad someone else brought this up. Lately, I've been noticing the
> trend of more and more couchsurfers, long term guests, etc. This has
> totally impacted my want to use noisebridge for, you know, hacking. I
> feel like these people more often than not are people who aren't using
> the space to make stuff or work, but just to have a place to crash.
> When I arrive on my day off, wanting a good day to work on my
> projects, I'm a little bit squeeked out to see 3 people in visually
> filthy attire sleeping on the couches with large travel backpacks
> nearby.
> Noisebridge is really important to me, and to my personal business- I
> need to be able to work on my projects, and Noisebridge is my
> workshop.  Habitual sleepers- and the attitude of Noisebridge being a
> couchsurf spot- is making the space unwelcoming to be in. 
> This is my personal but heartfelt opinion: This is a bad thing. It's a
> terrible trend that's getting worse due our lack of communication and
> want to confront people, and- I say this hesitantly- could be one of
> the nails on Noisebridge's coffin. This is coming from someone who
> comes here to WORK, to HACK, and to MAKE shit. 
> 
> 
> Meredith 
>  
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>
> wrote:
>         On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Jason Dusek
>         <jason.dusek at gmail.com> wrote
>          
>                  Not too long ago, one of our long-term guests put NB
>                 up on
>                  couchsurfing.org 
>                 
>                 
>         
>         
>         Wait, what?  Really?  Wow.
>         -- 
>         Josh Myer 650.248.3796
>          josh at joshisanerd.com
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