[Noisebridge-discuss] call for action - Mr. Salvador/Salvator Dalajlama is back

[meredith scheff]

If everyone on this thread tells him he's not welcome, that's a whole hell
of a lot of mojo in this guy's face.

I, as much as I really don't like this guy, also detest the calling police
option. HOWEVER: *threatening* to call the police is just fine. I also don't
like the sign idea, it's passive aggressive, and who knows what this guy's
faculties for recognizing his own face.
Direct confrontation. Calm, direct, keep the message clear and simple.

As for safety policies, I'm all for keeping them a bit higher, but please
don't think I mean TSA. I mean, we're in a sketchy hood, and so far we have
been adrift in a sheltered harbor of anonymity and obscurity, and that is
ending or has ended. We need to recognize that. Can we get the rotating key
back up?
I don't think we should *change* the lock, but we could lock the glass door
at night.
These items i believe are for the next meeting. I can't make this tuesday
because of prior obligations, but would love to be a part of the discussions
the meeting afterwords.

Also, here's an idea: for membership applications, have there be a 1 week
period between the end of the application and the initiation. Post that
person's name on the list or the wiki (or their moniker, or whatever) so
that folks who can't make the meeting can weigh in, as well.
I realize that doesn't actually help with the problem of random weirdos
(more weird and random than the normal) but it's an idea.

Keep calm and carry on
Meredith


On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof at thejof.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > So, can we reinforce with him that he's not welcome and maybe serve him
> up
> > an ultimatum? Something like, "hey, you know you aren't welcome here -
> > you've been told before. Its not a crash pad, or a place that things can
> be
> > taken from. So, please take off. If you can't stop coming back, we'll
> have
> > no choice but to call the cops".
>
> Personally, I really detest the idea of calling the police to get this
> guy to leave.
>
> If anything, I think this is a good chance for us to unite and look at
> our security practices for access control. For a *hacker*space of all
> things, I think our "security" at 2169 is pretty dismal (read:
> nonexistent).
>
> A couple of things I think we can start doing:
>  - Ask on the intercom who is coming in
>  - Remove a public QR code by the front door
>  - Make sure the "key" page on pony is properly rotating its keys (it
> seems to have stopped)
>  - Repair / replace the lock on the door from the stairwell and/or elevator
> gate
>
> What other things can we do to make sure we're not just letting in
> total strangers without greeting them first?
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