[Noisebridge-discuss] call for action - Mr. Salvador/Salvator Dalajlama is back

[aestetix aestetix]

Is Mr Dalajlama still there? I have a friend who is pretty good at handling
people in that context and is willing to help. Can someone give me a buzz if
they see him there again?

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

> I understand he is also responsible for lots of creepy scrawled words and
> images on the walls, most notable & recurring phrase being 'smoke dmt'.  It
> kind of looks like the stuff they always have on movie sets where a
> psychopath has made his lair.  This kind of decoration seems most
> unexcellent to me, primarily because it helps to create the 'skeezy
> flophouse' environment and helps to destroy the 'productive workplace'
> environment.
>
> R.
>
> mediumreality.com
> On Oct 31, 2010 1:56 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
> > I have not met this guy and I have only heard rumors. My understanding
> > is that he does the following undesirable things:
> >
> > * shows up to the space scarily high
> > * sleeps there
> > * takes things from people's shelves
> > * leaves dirty clothes in the "clothing swap" area he created
> >
> > (There may be other things I don't know of)
> >
> > None of those are excellent things. But if he stopped doing them, would
> > the man himself be a problem? I'd rather focus effort on stopping the
> > problem behaviors. That seems much more of a Noisebridge way of doing
> > things than trying to ban him.
> >
> > Aestetix, I think the message that these things are not acceptable will
> > come across much better if many people in the community talk to him
> > rather than just one. Nevertheless I encourage you to implement your
> > idea of trying to become his friend, as that can only produce good
> > results for us all.
> >
> > Generally it's hard to criticize someone to their face. But like
> > cleaning up after ourselves, it has to be done to maintain the
> > Noisebridge we know and love.
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson wrote:
> >> On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:46 AM, aestetix aestetix wrote:
> >>> So, here's my actual take on it. I think there's a communication
> breakdown, where a lot
> >>> people think "we" have "attempted" to "talk" to him, and "failed."
> > Instead of uniting
> >>> against him, why not have the community ask a member (of the
> > community, not necessarily
> >>> Noisebridge) who we all trust to take all of our ideas and have a
> > private chat with him?
> >>> That way, rather than having a bunch of people all hit him with
> > complaints, we have one
> >>> person who's filtering them all, and in the process learns this guy's
> > viewpoint and maybe
> >>> even forms a friendship with him. I think that would be much more
> > effective than arguing
> >>> about whether to exclude him or not, and it would be easier to
> > connect with him that way.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Are you hereby volunteering?
> >>
> >> Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson, Dr.rer.nat.
> >> Postdoctoral researcher
> >> mik at math.stanford.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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