[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge vs. techshop

Patrick Keys citizenkeys at gmail.com
Sat Feb 19 02:29:57 UTC 2011

Don't forget that Kink.com has a better robot than either Noisebridge or 
TechShop, an honest-to-god Johnny 5 sex machine:


On 2/18/2011 6:23 PM, Gian Pablo Villamil wrote:
> I am going to add a column to the Wiki page that includes Kink.com.
> Speaking from the perspective of having two Master's degrees (in
> Business and in Tech), and also Masturbating on occasion, it's a
> matter of whatever floats your boat, and helps you finish whatever you
> set out to do.
> No, Noisebridge can't compete with those gigantic friggin' tools that
> they have at Techshop, or Kink.com. We simply don't have the room or
> infrastructure, or orifices capable of handling them.
> Yes, Noisebridge can compete with the resources for smaller...
> everything... available at Techshop or Kink.com - heck, we even had a
> fucking machine in the space last year (though it was actually...
> enjoyed... by a willing volunteer from Kink.com)
> If Noisebridge focuses on the smaller projects, vs. Techshop or
> Kink.com, we can get more traffic, and also dodgy body fluids that
> would probably be an inconvenience at either of those two places.
> Amateur fetish porn can be both technical and creative, well within
> our remit at Noisebridge, and could be a significant source of
> funding. Or maybe not. In fact, almost certainly not, unless we
> recruited participants from a pool other than the current membership.
> This discussion of Noisebridge vs. Techshop vs. Kink.com provides some
> immediate relief, but is ultimately not as satisfying or healthy as a
> deep emotional relationship with another.
> Actually I think I should add another column in order to compare with
> the Pirate Shop at 826 Valencia.
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Patrick Keys<citizenkeys at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Speaking from two economics classes in college (macro and micro), as
>> well as being a business major, it's a matter of efficient markets
>> ("steak and potatoes economics").
>> No, Noisebridge can't compete with those gigantic friggin' tools that
>> they have at TechShop.  We simply don't have the room or infrastructure.
>> Yes, Noisebridge absolutely can compete with the resources for smaller
>> projects available at TechShop.
>> If Noisebridge focused on the smaller projects, including closing the
>> gap of smaller tools only available at TechShop, then both Noisebridge
>> and TechShop are better off.  Noisebridge gets more traffic for smaller
>> projects.  TechShop gets more traffic for larger projects.  For us, more
>> traffic means more donations and memberships to stay operational.
>> Another benefit of the wiki page is helping people efficiently plan the
>> time and resources for their projects.  For example, somebody might say
>> "well I can do step 1, step 2, and step 3 all at Noisebridge.  Then I
>> only need to do steps 4 and steps 5 at TechShop."
>> This discussion of Noisebridge and TechShop is great and refreshing and
>> healthy.  I hope this discussion continues.
>> Patrick
>> On 2/18/2011 5:48 PM, Steve Clement wrote:
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>>> On 2/18/11 5:35 PM, Patrick Keys wrote:
>>>> Since our only potential competitor for doing projects is TechShop, I've
>>>> done up a comparison page of Noisebridge vs. TechShop:
>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Compare_TechShop
>>> Hmmm, sorry, first off, hi all.
>>> I'm Steve, co-founder of www.hackerspace.lu currently in SunnyVale, CA
>>> which is why I lurk on your list.
>>> I react to this because if in Luxembourg someone would open a potential
>>> "competing" Space next doors we would rather try to gather synergies.
>>> I have no doubt that eventually the compare page might transfer into a
>>> Synergy page, nevertheless I am astonished.
>>>> If you see something on that list that we don't have at Noisebridge,
>>>> please donate it to Noisebridge.  Then that's one less reason to go to
>>>> TechShop.
>>> Are they that much to avoid?
>>>> Likewise, somebody please reply to this message with a list of
>>>> everything on the page that we have at Noisebridge.  I only checked off
>>>> the stuff that I was sure of that we have (which isn't much).
>>> Wow, your effort you put into this really scares me to go to TechShop
>>> now, without getting too close to any one but are they run by Scientology?
>>> I saw Mitchs' reply just now... So I am relieved ;)
>>> Anyway hack on and let's pull those strings together to move together
>>> into ONE Hacky Future!
>>> - --
>>> Steve Clement
>>> https://www.twitter.com/SteveClement
>>> mailto:steve at localhost.lu
>>> .lu: +352 20 333 55 65
>>> .us: +1 (408) 480 1798
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