[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge vs. techshop

Sat Feb 19 02:34:23 UTC 2011

Also they have a big kitchen and a darkroom. And a dungeon (actually
several), which we don't have.

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't forget that Kink.com has a better robot than either Noisebridge or
> TechShop, an honest-to-god Johnny 5 sex machine:
> http://www.fuckmachinesxxx.com/uploads/Nevaeh.jpg
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> Patrick
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> On 2/18/2011 6:23 PM, Gian Pablo Villamil wrote:
>>
>> I am going to add a column to the Wiki page that includes Kink.com.
>>
>> Speaking from the perspective of having two Master's degrees (in
>> Business and in Tech), and also Masturbating on occasion, it's a
>> matter of whatever floats your boat, and helps you finish whatever you
>> set out to do.
>>
>> No, Noisebridge can't compete with those gigantic friggin' tools that
>> they have at Techshop, or Kink.com. We simply don't have the room or
>> infrastructure, or orifices capable of handling them.
>>
>> Yes, Noisebridge can compete with the resources for smaller...
>> everything... available at Techshop or Kink.com - heck, we even had a
>> fucking machine in the space last year (though it was actually...
>> enjoyed... by a willing volunteer from Kink.com)
>>
>> If Noisebridge focuses on the smaller projects, vs. Techshop or
>> Kink.com, we can get more traffic, and also dodgy body fluids that
>> would probably be an inconvenience at either of those two places.
>> Amateur fetish porn can be both technical and creative, well within
>> our remit at Noisebridge, and could be a significant source of
>> funding. Or maybe not. In fact, almost certainly not, unless we
>> recruited participants from a pool other than the current membership.
>>
>> This discussion of Noisebridge vs. Techshop vs. Kink.com provides some
>> immediate relief, but is ultimately not as satisfying or healthy as a
>> deep emotional relationship with another.
>>
>> Actually I think I should add another column in order to compare with
>> the Pirate Shop at 826 Valencia.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Patrick Keys<citizenkeys at gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Speaking from two economics classes in college (macro and micro), as
>>> well as being a business major, it's a matter of efficient markets
>>> ("steak and potatoes economics").
>>>
>>> No, Noisebridge can't compete with those gigantic friggin' tools that
>>> they have at TechShop.  We simply don't have the room or infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Yes, Noisebridge absolutely can compete with the resources for smaller
>>> projects available at TechShop.
>>>
>>> If Noisebridge focused on the smaller projects, including closing the
>>> gap of smaller tools only available at TechShop, then both Noisebridge
>>> and TechShop are better off.  Noisebridge gets more traffic for smaller
>>> projects.  TechShop gets more traffic for larger projects.  For us, more
>>> traffic means more donations and memberships to stay operational.
>>>
>>> Another benefit of the wiki page is helping people efficiently plan the
>>> time and resources for their projects.  For example, somebody might say
>>> "well I can do step 1, step 2, and step 3 all at Noisebridge.  Then I
>>> only need to do steps 4 and steps 5 at TechShop."
>>>
>>> This discussion of Noisebridge and TechShop is great and refreshing and
>>> healthy.  I hope this discussion continues.
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/18/2011 5:48 PM, Steve Clement wrote:
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>>>> On 2/18/11 5:35 PM, Patrick Keys wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Since our only potential competitor for doing projects is TechShop,
>>>>> I've
>>>>> done up a comparison page of Noisebridge vs. TechShop:
>>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Compare_TechShop
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, sorry, first off, hi all.
>>>> I'm Steve, co-founder of www.hackerspace.lu currently in SunnyVale, CA
>>>> which is why I lurk on your list.
>>>>
>>>> I react to this because if in Luxembourg someone would open a potential
>>>> "competing" Space next doors we would rather try to gather synergies.
>>>>
>>>> I have no doubt that eventually the compare page might transfer into a
>>>> Synergy page, nevertheless I am astonished.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you see something on that list that we don't have at Noisebridge,
>>>>> please donate it to Noisebridge.  Then that's one less reason to go to
>>>>> TechShop.
>>>>
>>>> Are they that much to avoid?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Likewise, somebody please reply to this message with a list of
>>>>> everything on the page that we have at Noisebridge.  I only checked off
>>>>> the stuff that I was sure of that we have (which isn't much).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, your effort you put into this really scares me to go to TechShop
>>>> now, without getting too close to any one but are they run by
>>>> Scientology?
>>>>
>>>> I saw Mitchs' reply just now... So I am relieved ;)
>>>>
>>>> Anyway hack on and let's pull those strings together to move together
>>>> into ONE Hacky Future!
>>>>
>>>> - --
>>>> Steve Clement
>>>> https://www.twitter.com/SteveClement
>>>> mailto:steve at localhost.lu
>>>> .lu: +352 20 333 55 65
>>>> .us: +1 (408) 480 1798
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