[Noisebridge-discuss] lets all go for a drive and chill out...

jim jim at well.com
Tue Jan 4 17:48:44 UTC 2011

   interesting remarks. 
   it seems you've taken some heat lately. 
   I'm betting part of the reason is something you're 
doing, maybe a style of interaction..., i don't know. 
   whatever the truth of that, i'm very glad to see 
you sticking through it: kudos on that point. 

   i recently had the tho't that one aspect of some 
of the flameups that occur on our mailing list is a 
lack of patience and kindness, possibly for some good 
reason, possibly not. i'm in favor of patience and 

On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 01:02 -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
> I keep coming here because I'd like to make the space better. To see 
> something that doesn't completely "work" and walk away from it is 
> totally against the hacker mentality.  Say what you will about my 
> approach, but at least I try.  I continue to make effort despite all 
> these bad vibes and misunderstandings because that's what life is all about.
> The people that seem to have the most issues with me are the people that 
> are never here and whom I've not been able to have any sort of bonding 
> experience.  The people that I actually interact with on a daily basis I 
> consider my friends and co-workers, even if I don't always get along 
> with them.
> I've made a conscious effort to get as many of you in my car as I can 
> for off-site bonding, whether it's:
> * midnight anime marathon at Bridge Theater (Jason, Simon, Benny),
> * fieldtrip to Google & Hacker Dojo in Mountain View (Fabian, Benny, John),
> * Underground market to sell kombucha (rosanna, benny, fabian),
> * shooting range in South San Francisco (Isky, Nate, Benny, Fabian, John 
> - plus me and my dog - all in my little sedan at once), and
> * new year's fireworks at Embarcadero (Mike Khan, Simon, Benny, Fabian).
> Seeing each other outside of Noisebridge seems to make it easier for 
> everybody to get along. Of all my experiences at Noisebridge, the 
> experiences of doing things with people outside of Noisebridge that I've 
> met here are the experiences I value the most.
> Patrick
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