[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: borken iMac G5
Zach .
organic_unity at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 4 05:47:39 UTC 2011
I think something that has been unclear in this discussion is the age of whats being donated. When people dump 10 servers (HUGE) from 1991, thats when we have a problem. This was happening a lot lately which was why we had a huge pile of ewaste that myself, robert, rich and others did all the work to sort through.
however, if you are donating something reasonably new that has good parts, and I think this G5 does, there is nothing I find to be wrong with that. Getting rid of a broken G5 is not really a problem imo and lots of useful stuff can be taken from it. I would personally like to try to fix it.
It's the 1980's and 1990's crap that people dump here that is the real problem. Anything recent (like 5 years or so) is fair imo.
Zach
--- On Sat, 6/4/11, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
From: jim <jim at systemateka.com>
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: borken iMac G5
To: "Brian Morris" <cymraegish at gmail.com>
Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 2:57 AM
Brian's response makes sense to me. I'd like that
we err on the side of getting in too much stuff: I'm
willing to take stuff to the dump and other places
after a while. More stuff == more opportunities.
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 19:29 -0700, Brian Morris wrote:
> (Disclaimer : I am a generalist)
>
>
> Video Editing G5 :
>
> Depends on what rez and what editing means to you. You want to do cut
> and paste, or do you want to do transitions and complex filters ?
> Working with small clips (possibly reduced rez) and testing your ideas
> and then running them in batch mode if you have the patience ? Is 480p
> good enough, 720, 1080 ?
>
> G5 could do some of this. Linux is definitely faster for some things
> at least than MacOS, The more RAM the better. It don't think it would
> handle the 1080, not sure about the 720.
>
>
>
> If you want to do high end editing of hd video you need a new (twin)
> i7 (ie quad core) with an hd video card (or two) really. The video
> cards really do make a big difference.
>
>
> Maybe Video Editing otherwise:
>
> From a cursory look it seemed to me that Quagga is a Frankenstein
> monster, with an OK motherboard. If I am correct it could be refitted
> with a quad core cpu and a decent video card and more ram and a RAID
> on the SATA (at least two drives striped in addition to the boot drive
> = the set up I used at home for a server), that would indeed be much
> more capable than the G5.
>
> If we are really desparate now, why not try for both of these ? As it
> is now they are probably about the same as Quagga really has a weak
> video card but better cpu, it is somewhat fixupable but takes $$ to do
> it.
>
>
> The Rest:
>
> Several of the older computers I know people use in Linux study group
> for practice and training. The two that recently came in, this week I
> talked with the guy who put them together from spare parts off the
> hacker shelves (he said) -- he says he is studying networking in
> school and he wants to use them to learn how to put a cluster together
> -- he may have trouble due to the machines being unequal (unbalanced)
> but I feel that he should be welcome to try. The old P3 all in one is
> my current baby, the other two ancient iMacs I had some involvement
> with but as far as I am concerned they could be gently deposited
> outside hopefully put on the Free Stuff Craigs List with a time before
> hand they are going out, as they are attractive to some people and not
> broken, one has a functioning custom light ubuntu install I sweated
> over to get to be useable for basic stuff, and I would like if it were
> not trashed but I realize it is of limited use except for maybe a
> small child a granny or a few others (people terrified by computers)
>
> Then there are the embedded systems, the robot stuff in particular, I
> don't know much about that.
>
> Altogether:
>
> Don't see how a couple more systems for projects would hurt NB !
>
> The computers take up a lot less space than the kitchen and the other
> shops spaces. I sometimes feel like some of the people into those
> other things don't like the computer stuff...
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:01 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
> <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is that computer good enough to act as an actual, functional,
> video editing station? Because we do desperately need one of
> those.
>
> mediumreality.com
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2011 5:59 PM, "Shannon Lee" <shannon at scatter.com>
> wrote:
> > It says it's broken right in the subject.
> >
> > My point was to make it clear that Noisebridge is really,
> really not the
> > first place you should think of when you think, "where
> should I take my
> > broken computer?" unless the rest of the sentence is "so I
> can fix it up and
> > then take it home again."
> >
> > We regularly spend money and volunteer effort on broken
> computers that
> > someone didn't want but didn't want to take responsibility
> for getting rid
> > of. A broken computer is not a gift you're bestowing, it's a
> responsibility
> > you're shirking.
> >
> > --S
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Brian Morris
> <cymraegish at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Apologize for not sending to the list first off. Gmail
> makes it awkward.
> >> 'borken' was careless BTW..
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Brian Morris <cymraegish at gmail.com>
> >> Date: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:47 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] borken iMac G5
> >> To: Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> This offends me, feels unexcellent interpersonal relations.
> A G5 is not a
> >> useless crap computer. By comparison there is only one
> machine at NB that is
> >> stronger than a G5, the rest are a best half as good both
> in terms of speed
> >> and picture quality.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Shannon Lee
> <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> There is not a shortage of computers for hacking at
> Noisebridge, there is
> >>> a ruthless and efficient crap mafia making sure that
> Noisebridge doesn't
> >>> fill up with useless broken hardware. Broken computers are
> not at all in
> >>> short supply, and seriously, nobody should consider
> bringing their broken
> >>> computer to Noisebridge unless there's a specific use for
> it.
> >>>
> >>> --S
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Brian Morris
> <cymraegish at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I vote yes. IMHO there is a shortage of computers for
> hacking at
> >>>> noisebridge.
> >>>> iMac has small footprint and is easily moved about with
> built-in monitor.
> >>>> If powersupply is bad, probably not too hard to fix that.
> Much better than
> >>>> the two old G4s that are unused (one a 400mhz).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Tymm Twillman
> <tymmothy at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Friend just sent me an iMac G5 20/2.1 (FA064LL/A) that
> died on her, that
> >>>>> she'd like to go to a good cause. not sure the source of
> problem -- and
> >>>>> don't have time to investigate -- but it's totally dead,
> no signs of power.
> >>>>> drive's been pulled but she said everything else should
> be there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> if someone wants to give it a go, i'd be happy to pass
> it on to
> >>>>> Noisebridge. would like receipt (just for something to
> help offset her
> >>>>> shipping costs). faster service if someone's able to
> pick it up at Cesar
> >>>>> Chavez & Pennsylvania, otherwise could be a week or 2
> before i'm able to
> >>>>> drop off.
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> >>>
> >>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from
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> >>>
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