[Noisebridge-discuss] Are people okay with people sleeping at the Noisebridge space?

[Al Sweigart]

Simple enough solution: Members-only after hours, and if you can't
afford membership, after becoming a member put your membership on
hiatus. We already have a system in place for that.

-Al

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Joshua Juran <jjuran at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Al Sweigart wrote:
>
>> Physically hauling away the couches is no problem. I just don't want
>> to do it if there's a lot of people who think it's an idea that does
>> more ill than good. What are other people's thoughts?
>
> No.  This is not about the couches.
>
> Personally, I like having comfy couches to sit on.  It makes the place feel,
> well, comfortable.  To me, getting rid of the couches would be cutting off
> one's nose to spite one's face, an admission of failure to solve the
> problem.
>
> I get the sense that some (such as those advocating a policy of no sleeping
> applied to everyone) are trying to make sure to treat people fairly, by
> treating them equally, and that *that* is what Christina is calling into
> question.  It's true that if we allow a double standard then some people
> will cry foul.
>
> But is that necessarily a problem?  I for one give my experience actually
> being at Noisebridge considerably more weight than the hypothetical online
> rant of some persona non grata about how unfairly he or she was treated.
>  Maybe such a person's friends might be dissuaded from coming here.  Maybe
> that's a bonus.
>
> Are we predominantly egalitarian, or meritocratic?  In a meritocracy,
> everyone is *not* equal -- contributing earns privileges (and being a dick
> gets you kicked out).  But everyone is entitled to select the level at which
> they contribute.
>
>> Getting rid of the couches seems like it would be fairly
>> non-controversial.
>
>
> "This is why we can't have nice things."
>
> Josh
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