[Noisebridge-discuss] Rob 2.0 Update

Rameen emprameen at gmail.com
Thu Oct 20 06:18:17 UTC 2011


Thanks to everyone for the information on the events

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Will Sargent <will.sargent at gmail.com>wrote:

> > case and said that he wouldn't stoop to that behavior. This is the
> > first I've heard of any bomb making, incidentally, and I can't think
> > of anything that might have been mistaken for bomb making either.
> > Maybe someone else can add to that.
>
> Yeah, so; Rob compared the accusations to him as being "on the same
> level as saying people were making a bomb at Noisebridge" -- a
> metaphorical statement rather than an actual one.  And that saying
> that to the police would be "responding in kind" even though he wasn't
> going to sink to that level.
>
> He also mentioned lawsuits, special forces guys with attitude
> problems, politically connected friends and black hat hackers at
> various points.  I suggested he talk to the police about his lost
> servers, but he didn't like that idea for philosophical reasons.
>
> > Over the course of the hour, Will and I each took turns talking to Rob
> > 2.0, who said he would leave willingly if Mitch told him to, but
> > didn't think our reasons for why he should leave were valid.
>
> From my end:
>
> I talk to Duncan.  Duncan tries to show me email thread between he and
> Kelly, then says that Rob left, he's not going to help, Rob is
> persecuted.
> I talk to Rob, give him Kelly's email and #, mention mediation and
> history, try to get him to call Kelly and open dialogue.
> Duncan stands behind us with a cameraphone on, "documenting the
> proceedings" until Rob asks him to stop.
> Rob calls Kelly.  They talk.
> I talk to Kelly after.
> I go back in, talk to Rob.  I ask Rob if he's finishing up and
> leaving.  Rob says he's not going to leave until he's talked to Mitch,
> then that he's not going to leave until Noisebridge changes its name
> from a hackerspace to a dramaspace, etc.
> I tell Rob that he has to leave, by NB consensus, and waiting for
> Mitch is not realistic.  Calling the police is mentioned.
> Rob is agitated, wants to talk to Kelly again.
> Kelly and Rob talk more.
> I go outside, debrief with Kelly.  She mentions that Mitch has sent an
> email saying he'd be happy to talk, but that he should respect the
> will of the consensus.
> Go back inside, tell Rob, who is looking at the electronics rack of
> stuff.  Rob goes back to the desk, picks up his stuff.  He mentions
> that he brought in four large boxes of books that he might walk out
> with, but drops off the two books he has at the library.
> Rob and Miloh have a short chat.
> Rob leaves.
>
> Will.
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