[Noisebridge-discuss] Hacker in Afghanistan

[Ed Munoz]

Wow, that is some extreme ignorance right there.

1. I highly doubt this Lance Corporal chomping at the bit to get out there
and do some killin' fer Amerika. In fact, I'd wager that he wants no part
of it. Refusing to partake in combat, while in combat, will probably get
you killed by the person combating you, or if you live through that, your
can be punished with a bullet in the back,  via your officer's .45 pistol.
Btw that's the main reason officers carry pistols. Or you could go the
conscientious objector route and go to jail for a while and have your
record fucked for the rest of your life.

2. Bradley Manning wasn't a conscientious objector nor at any point has he
"refused to kill anybody".  He was an Intel guy which means he helped
collect and pass on enemy(whoever they may have been at the time) intel to
his superiors who would then use that information to go about killing the
enemy (people) the most efficient way possible.  All Manning did was send
some info and vids over to wiki-leaks, which I applaud, but he should've
been able to keep his shit together, and not botch and moan to an
user-douche like Lamo. Lamo, a hacker, ratted him out.

3. Most of the money spent on the war in Afghanistan goes to contractors,
or sometimes just straight up "disappears". There almost certainly isn't a
Gatorade and sunflower seeds budget for the lowly enlisted.

4. If it were up to me, I'd spend 118.6b comic books and beer.

Ed
 On Oct 30, 2011 1:11 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> Will he be helping kill people out there?  I understand that the US
> military has killed a lot of people in Afghanistan so far, and they have
> shown no signs of ceasing to kill people.
>
> I think killing people is very un-excellent.  I would never send sunflower
> seeds to someone who was killing people, or helping to kill people.  I
> would certainly want to send sunflower seeds to someone who refused to
> help kill people, like Bradley Manning did.  If your friend ends up like
> Bradley Manning I will certainly apologize for having prejudged him.
>
> The US government is spending $118,600,000,000.00 on the Afghanistan war
> this year, I would think there would be enough money in that to buy
> sunflower seeds and gatorade packets.  If it were up to me, i would end
> the war in Afghanistan and spend the money on hiring teachers and bailing
> out mortgages.  I think most people agree with me, but unfortunately
> politicians continue to do what they want, and (most) soldiers continue to
> do what they're told.
>
> -jake
>
> Carl Sue theabcasian at gmail.com wrote:
> Sat Oct 29 18:27:17 PDT 2011
>
> Hey Guys, we have a fellow hacker in Afghanistan who's about to go to a
> foreword operating base in two weeks. I'm guessing its pretty bad for him
> out there and I hear the FOB has no showers or hot food. I thought it
> would be nice to send him a care package (or a few) to let him know he has
> community waiting for him to come back. If you want to participate I think
> wesley is sending something or you can use his address:
>
> LCpl Pacer, Matthew J
>
> RCT-5 DET A UNIT 40306
>
> FPO AP 96427-0306
>
>
> his current needs include foot powder, slim jims, sunflower seeds... any
> food that will last 2+ months, DRINK MIXES like those crystal light or
> gatorade packets he also likes arduino and will have a soldering iron at
> the FOB.
>
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