[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] also [actual action] Re: Cynthia and "Asian" Reference

Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com
Fri Feb 3 23:57:21 UTC 2012

I'm not going to entertain everyone tweedling you into atoms until you
put $5 into the drama meter, Peter. Noisebridge gots to pay that
feminazi-geld somehow!

On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 02:58:19PM -0800, Peter Werner wrote:
> Danny O'Brien wrote:
>     I'm not sure you actually realise how large of an intersection there is
>     between the people who organize and speak at Arse Electronica and those who
>     developed the (templated) suggestions for the anti-harrasment policy.
> Well then, I guess they have a rather large contradiction on their hands, don't
> they?
>     Obviously, it'd be far easier for the outrage if they were carefully
>     arranged on two sides of some gaping cultural divide, but actually you can
>     be simultaneously for developing reasonable anti-harassment policies *and*
>     sex positivity *and* freedom of speech.
> Might be. Pity the Geek Feminist policy template does such an utterly piss-poor
> job of it. And small clue here, calling for a ban on a ban on a very broad
> category of imagery as default policy and then demanding adoption of that
> policy at practically all public spaces raises fucking huge free speech issues.
> Oh, and "we're sex positive/anarchists/feminsts/whatever, therefore we can't be
> censors" sets off my bullshit detector big time. 
>     It'd be pretty easy to knock out an anti-harassment variant for Arse or an
>     all-night hummus fucking party; those square brackets are there for a
>     reason. Probably a slightly better reason than your use of scare quotes
>     around a group of people you interact with on a regular basis.
> Oh dear, somebody's quite butthurt now, aren't they? Look, I interact with
> people who I think have damn fool ideas all the time. And as long as they're
> not imposing their perspective on me or vice versa, there's not a problem.
> People demanding their pet ideologies gain the force of a rule I have to abide
> by is another matter, and I will speak up about it.
> Peter

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