[Noisebridge-discuss] thefts at noisebridge / access policy

[Dan Cote]

I am in support of non intrusive security measures. Requiring a door code
to open the gate electronically is acceptable. "Members only" and "close at
night" get suggested every couple of months, and every time, gets blocked
by multiple members. Anything that reduces the utility of the space to
members will not likely pass consensus.

If the problem is preventing theft, we need to engrave our name and address
on things that might be taken, and as Liz says paint them. There is almost
always a group of people (different groups over time) at noisebridge who
don't belong, and take advantage of our generosity. I am going to be more
proactive in making these groups move on.

Member shelf security is really important, and I am starting a new thread.

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Rigel Christian <rigelc at gmail.com> wrote:

> did this policy come after the move from 83c?
>
> because as i recall, if you had a key, member or not, you could use
> the space. there were plenty of people from out of town who came and
> just hung out more or less indefinitely at that time.
>
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Ben Kochie <superq at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The culture changed drastically a long time ago.  We used to have a
> policy
> > of having non-members leave when nobody was  around.
> >
> > I'm sorry to say it, but noisebridge was created for the membership, not
> for
> > random out of town people.
> >
> > I do not want the policy to be "we can't have nice things" and I'm
> thinking
> > it's time we as members simply close the door and reset the policy back
> to
> > the original configuration of being closed to non-members outside of
> event
> > hours.
> >
> > On Oct 18, 2012 11:13 PM, "Corey McGuire" <coreyfro at coreyfro.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd hate to say it, but I have just adopted a, "This is why we can't
> have
> >> nice things, and I am OK with that" Policy at noisebridge.
> >>
> >> There is just nothing that can be done at Noisebridge that will change
> >> this that will not drastically change the culture.
> >>
> >> So, what I recommend is, guard your stuff, take it home, and don't bring
> >> quality items to leave at noisebridge.
> >>
> >> If we just have crap tools at noisebridge...not broken, but cheap, there
> >> will be less theft and it won't be so hard to recover after something
> goes
> >> missing.
> >>
> >> One serious note, yeah, we have a lock picking class, and people often
> use
> >> this to discourage locking anything...but maybe it's time to start
> locking
> >> things.  I don't care how hard it is...or how trivial it is...to unlock
> >> something, but at least it removes, with out a doubt, that something is
> not
> >> meant to be share.  Lockers at noisebridge wouldn't be such a bad idea.
> >>
> >> Also, lets revisit the tote idea instead of shelf idea.  I think that
> >> would be a better barrier to theft and mess/disorganization and make the
> >> "member shelves" more useful for more people.
> >>
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