[Noisebridge-discuss] misogynist loser visiting noisebridge

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Wed Dec 25 06:30:34 UTC 2013

Hey Jonathan. Wishy-washy is a good way to describe it. For a space that
was set up to be some sort of anarchist community, Noisebridge is
incredibly conservative and hesitant to change the status quo. I mean, all
the problems that Noisebridge currently has are the *exact* same ones it
had two, three, four years ago.

But we are making some changes by adding new rules (among them the
anti-harassment policy, even though it's provisional). I like the new
direction that Noisebridge is taking. There's just some blowback from
people who are afraid of change, but once they see that Noisebridge isn't
going to be destroyed or turned into an Apple Store/Starbucks or whatever,
people will be fine with it.


PS - Oh man, you are going to get people jumping down your throat for
saying "high quality people". :)

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jonathan Hart <jonathan.hart at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey guys, I'm a lurker on this list and I just wanted to pose a couple
> questions...
> When do you guys think your notion of a drama free anarchy will align
> itself with reality?
> When will your own evolutionarily evolved ideals align with off-the-street
> human nature?
> You guys might sleep better at night by getting down to brass tacks. From
> an outsider, it looks like you guys are desperately tip toeing around the
> truth, which is a space like yours cannot be governed without real
> governance. It seems like you have created a lot of hoops to jump through
> to perpetuate the illusion that anarchy could work.
> Long story short, make rules and don't be scared about it. At least form a
> structure for the very process of making rules. From my point of view, from
> all I've read, the structure you have now is not working at all.
> Jonathan
> PS - please don't hate me for not being one of you. I'm just trying to
> help. I want to join Noisebridge and work on projects, but it seems like
> the management of the place is too wishy washy to make it a safe place for
> me to geek out. It seems like you want high quality people working on
> innovative stuff, and I consider myself potentially one of those people,
> but high quality people do their homework, such as subscribe to the mailing
> list before hand, and the mailing list is not selling the place at all.
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