[Noisebridge-discuss] A test of Excellence

J.C. r33lmm at gmail.com
Thu Jan 17 05:34:43 UTC 2013


I think your overlooking a number of things, first of least you are talking
about noisebridge, and a couple of other random "private" places.
Noisebridge operates on a different philosophy imho that it in particular
it is a public place, so I suggest you try your study by leaving such items
on various sidewalks, or lobbys and see what the result is.

Yes nb is in the middle of the mission, some of it also consider it home.
Yes a lot of shit gets stolen in the mission, correction nearly everything
in mission gets stolen, sometimes it's cell phones, sometimes it's million
dollar homes stolen by massive bullshit financial crashes.

Ok, end of rant, if you think leaving something unattended in a public
place, with just contact info on it, means you'll ever see it again, well
good luck with that.

If you think that's something that should be part of an excellent public
hackerspace such at noisebridge, I'd love to see you help make it so.


P.S. Public/Group storage spaces.


;+)


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Martin Bogomolni <martinbogo at gmail.com>wrote:

> The Excellence Study is now over.  Here are the results:
>
> From October to January, five items were left in three spaces (
> Noisebridge, Dallas Makerspace, UCSC ).  The items were:
>
> *) A Casascius BitCoin, seal intact, in a small transparent envelope
> labeled with a name, contact info, Do Not Hack
> *) A 9.6V power screwdriver, with philips and slot-head bits, in a
> case clearly labeled with a name and contact #
> *) A box of assorted IC chips and parts from Make: "Electronics
> Components Pack #2", in a case, clearly labeled with a name and
> contact #
> *) An Android phone, Samsung Galaxy S, loaded with CyanogenMod, with a
> laser-etched name and contact on the back
> *) A "DefCon 19" jacket, with a contact name inside the jacket in sharpie
>
> Dallas Makerspace)
>
> *) BitCoin - contact # notified, returned 11/1
> *) Screwdriver was boxed, placed on "lost and found" area 10/20,
> contact # called 10/24, returned 11/1
> *) Make Components pack was placed on "lost and found" area 10/20,
> contact # called 10/24, returned 11/1
> *) Android phone was stolen 10/28, recovered after contact on 11/5 by
> Dallas area pawn shop.
> *) DefCon Jacket was placed in "lost and found" 11/15, contact  email
> used 11/22, returned 12/21
>
> UC Santa Cruz)
>
> *) BitCoin went missing 11/9, re-appeared 12/8, placed in lost and found
> box
> *) Screwdriver, Make Component Pack, were placed in a box labeled with
> the name on the case, and retrieved 1/14/2013
> *) Android Phone, Jacket were placed in a box labeled with the name in
> the jacket, and retrieved 1/14/2013
>
> NoiseBridge )
>
> *) BitCoin was stolen on 10/14, BTC transferred on 10/15
> *) Screwdriver and case was stolen on 10/18
> *) Make Component Pack was opened on 10/24, some components scattered
> into the electronics area and moved to member shelf area, mostly empty
> case went missing from member shelf area 11/3
> *) Android phone was stolen 10/15, pre-paid SIM was used all over the
> bay area (mostly Berkeley) until 11/9, phone recovered from BART
> police on 1/8 smashed/damaged
> *) DefCon Jacket was stolen 10/18
>
> Draw your own conclusions.  The experiment was interesting, but it
> definitely points to some culture issues.
>
> -M
>
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Martin Bogomolni <martinbogo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Any good experiment needs a hypothesis, and a way of testing that
> > hypothesis with an experiment and a control.
> >
> > My hypothesis is that the operating principles of Noisebridge are not
> > serving to increase, but rather to decrease, the average level of
> > honesty and 'Excellence' in the space.   Specifically the current way
> > things are set up socially inside of Noisebridge, with insufficient
> > negative feedback/pressure on people to reinforce the social values
> > that promote that kind of honest behavior.
> >
> > I have had two people leave five valuable things in Noisebridge.
> > These things are useful to different people for different reasons.
> >
> > Five identical items have been left at the Dallas Makerspace, as a
> > second social group with different rules.   Also at UC Santa Cruz'
> > workshop as a control, as they have a strongly reinforced discipline
> > of object ownership and storage.
> >
> > All are items a Hacker/Maker would have.
> >
> > One of them contains something intrinsically valuable if disassembled.
> >   It will cease to work if that happens.
> >
> > All are clearly labeled as 'do not hack', with a name and identifying
> > label for which member shelf they should be on.
> >
> > All have been placed in logical places, but not on a material or
> > 'hack' shelf.   None are in their 'correct' location.
> >
> > None are worth less than $50.
> >
> > None of those labels has my name on it.
> >
> > The location of the items will be checked after a day, a week, two
> > weeks, a month, and two months.
> >
> > I will publish the results after three months.
> >
> > -M
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