[Noisebridge-discuss] door

[Liz Henry]

Hey hep,

any time if you do want to hang out at NB (during the day, for me) let 
me know, I am not a sketchy brogrammer and I enjoy working in company.

We are having the hacker hive meetup at sudo room next week, also. Would 
love to see you there if you can make it.

I was sad to miss 5mof last night but happy to hear about all the great 
talks from it.

I agree with lots of people who would like to see the door locking 
become more secure.  I don't like the solutions based around security 
cameras, but I do love the camera that allows visibility at the entrance 
for when I am pushing the buzzer to let someone in.

I try to talk with new people coming into the space very actively. 
Often, actually, that means that I am putting myself in the "cruise 
director" social manager role while in the space, and that ends up 
unfortunately with my spending a lot of my energy on taking emotional 
care of men, who feel very entitled to it, however lovely and 
interesting they may be as people and as hackers. That is something that 
is the antithesis of my goal as a feminist, but that I end up doing 
anyway. I don't have a magic formula to escape that.

That is part of why I make space in my life deliberately to support 
other women who are hackers and makers, and why I started up the Hacker 
Hive. It really helps for us to simply be able to hang out with, and pay 
attention to, each other.   And it changes the dynamic of the 
interaction with the guys who (as rachel lyra points out) always want to 
come up and "help" . . . . as any hackery woman comes in to the space 
without an obvious boyfriend knows, 6 guys will get all up in her space 
trying to "be helpful" just a little (or a lot) too much. Too much 
"welcoming" and imho dudes need to back the hell off and let us freaking 
hack. JFC....

Anyway, it is complicated.

Best,

Liz




On 1/18/13 6:18 AM, hep wrote:
> Actually the reason I and many of my female hacker friends don't go to
> noisebridge is exactly why John was saying. I would honestly rather hang
> out on Mission St out front, than hang out at noisebridge, what with the
> way I have been approached in the space, and the type of people who I
> normally encounter on my relatively rare visits there.
>
> -hep
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:50 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
> <rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>> Look around NB, Johny, see a lot of the female hackers that were there a
>>> while ago? Where did they all go? Is there a convention somewhere else?
>>
>> no way dude. i just checked with all the feminists and we'd rather hang
>> out with sketchy street people than brogrammers any day of the week. next
>> scapegoat please.
>>




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