[Noisebridge-discuss] Kitchen Overhaul

[jim]

It's a do-ocracy until someone brings 
"it" up for consensus, then it becomes 
a matter for consensus. 




On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 14:27 -0700, cynthia lee wrote:
> I have attended several rebase meetings. There were several people who
> spoke up about the desirability of keeping an island and we (the ones
> maintaining the need for an island) expected that the final plan would
> contain an island made of materials that the group approved after the
> end of that discussion at that rebase meeting. True, at the last
> meeting i was the only one asking that the island be maintained but
> not everyone could make all the meetings.
> 
> The persons most interested in tearing down the current kitchen
> insisted that consensus was not needed for such a change: it is a
> do-ocracy! I politely and consistently disagreed with this attitude.
> There is a need for dedicated counterspace.
> 
> 
> The insect problem is a function of multiple issues. An effort to
> purchase a large bag of food grade diatomaceous earth was made by
> Brandon (the same one that there is a current effort to kick out). He
> waited timely for the Fed Ex delivery only to discover that someone
> kept turning off the door buzzer manually. For various reasons, he did
> not have an ID that Fed Ex would accept so he could pick it up in
> person.This is the least toxic (it is food grade....you can eat the
> damned stuff) product that can be used for crawling insects but needs
> to be used generously and frequently. Insects have not, so far,
> evolved to render the DE pointless unlike chemical products (which are
> harmful to humans). Any kitchen design can be over run by insects
> without a product like DE and especially while persons using the
> kitchen refuse to even minimally clean up.  Brandon's generosity in
> purchasing this item was never acknowledged.  It would be conspiracy
> theory to suggest someone intentionally, instead of thoughtlessly,
> obstructed delivery access to the space since FedEx deliveries happen.
> 
> I believe that the reason people do not want a kitchen is to
> discourage those who frequent the space and cook from time to time.
> True, it is not excellent to live in the space however, the value of
> regular volunteers who keep an eye out for miscreants and thefts
> should not be discounted, even if they keep extended hours and
> occasionally nap. I hope people keep in mind that even Tesla was
> homeless and dug ditches for income after being shafted by the people
> who contracted for him to come to America. Lots of people with
> experience and advanced degrees are out of work currently. Why make
> the space uncomfortable for them to come and hang out and network?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cynthia Jeanne Lee MD 
> http://cynthiajeanneleemd.wordpress.com
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