[Noisebridge-discuss] learning vs getting shit done

[Daniel Pitts]

Who was that directed at? Did you mean that to be a reply to my message?

If so, my response is that if I were a paying member, then I would be 
able to afford to have the tools and materials at my home in lieu of 
being a paying member.  The benefit of being part of the Noisebridge 
community would be what would sway me to be a member, not the 
materials.  As it stands, I'm mostly a lurker on this mailing list, and 
rarely present at the space (I've been there twice).

To put it another way, the only reason I would pay to be a member would 
be to have an environment to share my ideas and learn from others.
If I frequented the space as anything but a paying member, then I 
personally would be doubly grateful for having a space and material to 
work for free and people to socialize with.

As it stands, I do happen to do most of my hacking at home, because of 
the disinterest I've observed within the space and on this list.



On 6/3/13 6:23 PM, Jeffrey Faden wrote:
> Really? You have all the tools and materials Noisebridge has at your home?
> Jeffrey
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Nicholas LoCicero 
> <nick.locicero at gmail.com <mailto:nick.locicero at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I've been to several 12-step type spaces where they are very
>     similar to Noisebridge in that they are entirely member funded,
>     have no "professionals" running the place, etc.  These places do
>     much better selling coffee to their members than having an entire
>     kitchen.  I'd much rather see the kitchen go and have some
>     cafe-coffee place like the one you suggest.  Even if it's just pay
>     what you can for self-serve, on your honor coffee.  The idea works
>     really well and the kitchen really pollutes the space in my
>     opinion.  How does this sound?
>
>
>     On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Dan Cote
>     <terminationshok at gmail.com <mailto:terminationshok at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         I wouldn't mind having a slightly more serious working area,
>         physically separate from the rest of the space. I'm thinking
>         of a coffee shop style area. Anyone care to start an rfc for
>         such an area? Is there a pattern for starting RFCs on the wiki?
>
>         On Jun 1, 2013 9:32 AM, "Robert "Finny" Merrill"
>         <rfmerrill at berkeley.edu <mailto:rfmerrill at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>
>             So one of the primary complaints that people have about NB
>             is that you
>             can't get work done without people coming up to you and
>             asking you
>             tons of questions about what you're doing.
>
>             I think this is a result of the fact that many of the
>             events that
>             introduce people to the space are learning-type events
>             (CHM, other
>             classes etc), and as such people tend to (initially, at
>             least) think
>             of NB as a learning environment.
>
>             nb-as-learning-space and nb-as-getting-shit-done-space are not
>             entirely opposed but do have some opposing features, so I
>             think we
>             should keep that in mind and come to a conscious decision
>             on how we
>             want to balance the two.
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