[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: how Noisebridge could improve

[Christoph Maier]

After running into Frantisek at Seoul Hackerspace, I imagine how Frantisek,
as trusted squatter-in-residence, would improve both friendliness and
security of a hackerspace. But some <expletive deleted> tore out half the
kitchen.

On Apr 11, 2014 7:58 AM, "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Addendum:
>
> Our lack of security can also be chalked up to a failure of imagination.
>
> Oh, I know we've imagined things, but largely they have been along the
> lines of doing one or two individual things, which really could not
> work on their own because of the limitedness of their scope and/or the
> unfeasibility of the resources (e.g. humans) needed to perpetuate
> them.
>
> We have never totally imagined the security of the space as a system.
>
> Please don't take me to mean that security is hopeless.  I mean mostly
> to say that at Noisebridge it is Very Hard.
>
> Larger post coming soon.
>
> --Naomi
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 5:54 AM
> Subject: Re: how Noisebridge could improve
> To: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>
>
> So, I want to offer this perhaps sobering bit of truth about
> Noisebridge: it has /never/ been a safe place to leave your stuff.
>
> I have had things stolen from me at Noisebridge since NB epoch.  Yes,
> that's unexcellent.  I'm not going to put a "but" on that fact.  It
> just is.
>
> In the future, maybe Noisebridge CAN become the sort of place you
> envision, but -- to be very honest -- because Noisebridge was not
> designed with that kind of security in mind, and has never had that
> kind of security (except basically by accident), it does not seem very
> likely.
>
> You know what was a good solution?  The lockers that Al graciously
> bought and installed for us.
>
> If anyone needs one, they can use #22, which is mine, for free.  Email
> me off-list for the code.
>
> I think it's time to be up-front about what we do and don't expect
> Noisebridge to be.
>
> As a mother, for example, I do not expect Noisebridge to ever be a
> safe place for my 3-year-old child.  I just don't.  I can bring my
> child there on occasion, but it's not a playroom for little kids.
> *shrug*
>
> --Naomi
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > There was a message from Norman (aka pryankster) in the moderation
> > queue (which I have now turned off).   The only thing I changed is the
> > email subject.
> >
> >
> > Original message:
> > ---
> > After reading openfly's ramble I thought I should finally post this.
> >
> > I don't get to Noisebridge much anymore and this is why. At the basic
> > level I feel safer out on Mission than I feel at Noisebridge. There are
> > a couple of reasons, 1. out on the street I can usually see danger
> > approaching and avoid it and 2. at Noisebridge it just isn't safe.
> >
> > I started showing up at NB because it felt like a good place to interact
> > with other folks that understand, Scientific, Mathematical, and
> > Technical things. Where we could help each other out with knowledge
> > sharing. With a few notable exceptions if I try to talk "Tech" folks I
> > am now usually met with blank stares.
> >
> > I think that NB should be a place where if you leave your stuff to go to
> > the restroom or down stairs for a snack it is there when you come back.
> > If you forget something it is put in Lost & Found and remains there
> > until you claim it. It should NOT be as it is where if I get up to give
> > some new people a tour things are missing when I come back.
> >
> > You are entitled to your own opinion.
> > You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
> > Norman
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
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>
>
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