[Noisebridge-discuss] "Banning" discussion tonight

Praveen Sinha dmhomee at gmail.com
Tue Feb 25 22:40:25 UTC 2014


I love you Naomi!!!!  Community meeting is a GREAT idea :)  I don't know if
I can be there tonight, but I'll try my best.


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be there.  I also feel this is an extremely important
> discussion, and goes much deeper than simply the use of a ban.
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> I have a solution in mind to avoid these situations, something I
> brought up a few meetings ago: a "community" meeting.
>
> Misunderstandings shouldn't be allowed to scale to the level of
> "drama".  In our current "system", we only have two modes: the general
> meeting and noisebridge-discuss.  The former is simply an
> inappropriate venue for addressing interpersonal issues, and the
> latter... well.
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> Now that I see to what ridiculous level the Noisebridge version of
> justice can be taken in response to interpersonal issues that should
> never have escalated, it's time we consider strongly the idea of
> having a Community meeting in addition to the NB general meeting.
>
> --Naomi
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Unfortunately I won't be able to be at tonight's meeting.  But I want to
> > encourage discussion of "Banning".
> >
> > It is important to get rid of people who melt use, rather contribute to
> the
> > culture of Noisebridge and is mission and vision.  It is also important
> to
> > ban people who are disruptive, make many people uncomfortable, or are
> > violent or hateful.
> >
> > It is also important to not use banning as a means of getting rid of
> someone
> > because you don't like them, or because you have a misunderstanding or
> > argument.
> >
> > Banning is a drastic measure, and (unless for violent or hateful or
> illegal
> > behavior) should only be done when other means have been exhausted.
> >
> > These concepts need to be discussed and explored.
> >
> > A specific case came to my attention recently.  Lee Sony was apparently
> > banned without him being allowed to present his position.  He will be at
> > tonight's meeting.  I hope people will listen and respond.  I feel this
> is
> > important.
> >
> > Best,
> > Mitch.
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