[Noisebridge-discuss] why would hackers come to noisebridge?

[Ronald Cotoni]

I am with what hep said.  I am also with Naomi.  This is a hackerspace.
 Lets hack the system and figure out how to solve problems.  I am also with
Al that I feel sad that UU had to even exist because noisebridge was not
safe enough or good enough.  I also understand that some people just like
working with other females and don't even want to bother at this stage of
their lives.  I just feel it was mostly a response to Noisebridge not being
safe and not the latter.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am openly biased towards anarchism and lack of top-down control.
> But we can't keep shouting down the idea of "oversight" to address
> problems that Noisebridge has had for YEEAAARRRSSS when we've
> certainly given the Noisebridge traditional methods that long to fix
> things.
>
> For the record, I don't agree with the idea of direct
> people-management or in changing the way we arrive at decisions at
> Noisebridge.  My idea of a positive change would be to have the board
> managing facilities and facilitating participation -- e.g. forming
> working groups.  I believe these improvements will make a lot of the
> other crap die down naturally.
>
> And as it turns out, that's what we're going to do first.
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:46 AM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:
> > And that would be different from what noisebridge has had in the last 5yr
> > how? as it stands, many women do not feel safe at noisebridge because of
> > sexual assault and the past somewhat failure to deal with it in a manner
> > where women felt safe and listened to at nb. many valuable contributing
> > people have left nb because of its failure to address major
> infrastructure
> > problems. if having a more active board helps to stop sexual abuse and
> makes
> > the culture more welcoming to those who would positively contribute,
> then i
> > am 100% down with active management. i would like noisebridge to be
> > somewhere i can bring friends to interest them in hacking, bring my
> > childrens' school championship robotics team to inspire them to the next
> > victory, not a place where i am fearful to go on my own because there
> are no
> > protections or infrastructure to ensure basic safety.
> >
> > -hep
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Torrie Fischer <
> tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I think it is important to note that in the context of a hackerspace,
> >> there is
> >> a difference between managing the infrastructure and managing the people
> >> who
> >> hack on the infrastructure.
> >>
> >> From experience, just saying "active management" easily leads to bad
> times
> >> and, uh, rather verbose mailing list threads.
> >>
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Ronald Cotoni
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