[Noisebridge-discuss] modern sexism

Tue Mar 18 21:24:12 UTC 2014

Some folks at NB find you brilliant, Charles.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:

> Everyone had their differences. I tried sharing mine, and apparently that
> would make me dangerous. I have had my fair share of mental abuse for the
> past month, and I try really hard to hold myself together.
>
> Where is the cosmopolitanism? I left Arizona for a reason. All I have
> found here was nothing. I am hoping that will turn around, because everyone
> feels like this at one time or another. It's the process of growing.
>
> But, I came to this community to try and learn things, and people decided
> to scope every aspect of my life. Really not knowing what had even
> happened, or how it came to be. As such is the consequences of labels--but
> exclusionary frameworks exist because we don't understand this complexity.
> As a result, we don't understand each other, and some are forced into
> isolation for the mere reason that there is no reasonable conclusion.
>
> And still, no one can fully understand each other. But, I trust that Tom
> had a reason for the group, to make it more inclusive of a categorical that
> generally does not find interest in such a group, as that categorical may
> have been pressured away from accepting these kinds of ideas.  Or people
> who originally held such beliefs, but became disenchanted from them because
> of such things.
>
> And now, people have met each other, and they pair up. I had dreams too, I
> wanted to be part of a community too, I wanted to feel accepted. But, you
> all assigned me a passcode from the first day and I ignored it. You all
> issued judgements on me and I ignored it. I kept coming back because I had
> a goal, but got caught up in a web of these separations.
>
> And now the papers have been found, by my neighbor. The ones I never
> talked about. Or, the history I never thought I could trust anyone with. I
> was told to "get over it," and I tried my hardest despite my issues to. It
> still persists to this day, and I am still trying my hardest to get by.
>
> Despite my ability to speak well, despite my ability to understand, I was
> still ignorant as to what was going on. I was so ignorant when people came
> to me. I never felt comfortable talking about any of this.
>
> But, I guess it is all in my genetics too, right? It keeps happening to
> me, right?
>
> But, I'm still trying.
>
>
> On 18 March 2014 13:42, Elizabeth Hubbard <emhubbard28 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a good website to illustrate the point that we shouldn't be
>> walking up to people and saying, "You're this color and have this set of
>> DNA, so here's what you should think."  http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Elizabeth Hubbard <emhubbard28 at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> So, there's a choosing pool for feminism?  Where do I sign up?  Here I
>>> thought I was a feminist for the past 20+ years, now I have to go ask
>>> someone permission.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Alexandra Glowaski <
>>> alex.glowaski at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wat.
>>>>
>>>> Can we get this off the list?
>>>>
>>>> (inb4 free speech: we are not the government; communities are empowered
>>>> to choose their constituents and set standards for communication.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Elizabeth Hubbard <
>>>> emhubbard28 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not to be a kid about it (most kids don't quite think at this level
>>>>> yet), but going around telling people how they should identify themselves
>>>>> according to race and gender is highly ignorant and bigoted.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> kids, please..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 March 2014 13:24, Elizabeth Hubbard <emhubbard28 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Nice to hear you laugh, but I'd never call my mother an asshole.  I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> > call you one three times in a row, though.  Asshole, asshole,
>>>>>> asshole.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Lupita Berries <
>>>>>> garyberries at gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Lol, I'm not your mom, you can stop acting like a child.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Elizabeth Hubbard <
>>>>>> emhubbard28 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> You're a disrespectful and delusional asshole.  I can join
>>>>>> whatever group
>>>>>> >>> I want, because I identify as human.  (Says so on my census
>>>>>> data.)  Maybe
>>>>>> >>> you don't identify me as human, but you can go mind your own
>>>>>> business.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Lupita Berries <
>>>>>> garyberries at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> You can do whatever you want, but you can't stop others from
>>>>>> calling you
>>>>>> >>>> out as a disrespectful and delusional asshole.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Elizabeth Hubbard
>>>>>> >>>> <emhubbard28 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> I can be a black panther if I want to be.  Maybe a lone black
>>>>>> panther
>>>>>> >>>>> in my own home, but my labels are my own choosing and anyone
>>>>>> who tells me
>>>>>> >>>>> otherwise is going to get an ironic eyebrow and told to mind
>>>>>> their own
>>>>>> >>>>> business.  Our labels are own business.  Co-opting them from
>>>>>> other people,
>>>>>> >>>>> not our business.
>>>>>> >>>>>
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