[Noisebridge-discuss] Rachel's language

[Al Sweigart]

I did not know that Rachel did not want to be privately messaged before
reading about it on this thread. I'm really glad I didn't accidentally do
so.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:19 PM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:

> I also agree that Johnny knew about this request. I will note that this is
> something that many female tech persons have to deal with, having their
> wishes for contact explicitly ignored and then having the calling out of
> that behavior questioned. "misunderstanding" seems to go a long way towards
> excusing boundary crossing behavior.
>
> -hep
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Naomi Gmail <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...... I think Rachel is on target here. Johny must have previously seen
>> Rachel's post-to-list behavior and deliberately wrote that to bother her.
>>
>> If I imagine Johny writing that to anyone else it seems pretty
>> nonsensical.
>>
>> --Naomi
>>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Because he added the request for you to post to the list does not mean he
>> knew that you did not want to be privately messaged, if I follow this right.
>>
>> But he does know now, so he won't. I agree with Ryan, this does seem like
>> a misunderstanding.
>>
>> Lolol.
>>
>> Johny's claim of innocence here would make sense if he hadn't appended a
>> request to post his messages to the list to both private emails he sent me.
>>
>> I don't expect an apology from him, but if he is calling the quote I
>> posted a lie that's interesting, and if he expects anyone to believe that
>> he didn't know about this desire of mine then I don't really know what that
>> quote was supposed to mean. Here's the request he put in his other email to
>> me:
>> "I hope you don't like this message so that you share it on-list."
>>
>> Do you deny writing that, johny? Be sure to tell my killfile all about it.
>>
>> I'll say that in fact the times we've encountered each other at
>> noisebridge I've been, if anything, rude to him, since I think he's <elided
>> negative words>.
>>
>> R.
>>
>> In summary; a misunderstanding, all is good.
>> On Mar 27, 2014 8:19 PM, "Johny Radio" <johnyradio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "hep" <dis at gruntle.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rachel asked *everyone* to please message her onlist in at least one
>>> recent thread that I read
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, i don't have time to read every post to the list. So no,
>>> i did not see that. Nor do i feel it's my responsibility to read every post
>>> by rachelyra, to make sure i don't miss any general instructions.
>>>
>>> And since Rachel and i have chilled in-person at NB with friendly vibes,
>>> i had no reason to assume that.
>>>
>>> To Spinach claim, Rachel never asked me, Johny Radio, not to message her
>>> off-list, as Spinach stated.
>>>
>>> If Rachel, or anybody, does not want to be messaged off-list, i suggest
>>> you put that in your signature in every post you send.
>>>
>>>
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