[Noisebridge-discuss] cron job email or real event?

[Jake]

this thread should end now.

On Thu, 8 May 2014, Naomi Most wrote:

>> "i have brought this up at countless Noisebridge meetings"
>
> I mean LATELY.  Sorry, you don't get points for meetings you went to
> in the past, not around here.
>
> The community changes, the situation changes, the people with energy
> to spare wax all wax and wane.
>
> Your angry reactions to my innocent question -- which I asked JAKE,
> not you -- are all too telling.
>
> I never said you haven't done ANYTHING Johny.  I know you do a lot for
> the space.
>
> In fact, you do too much.  Far more than anyone else.  It's causing
> you -- and many others following this same pattern -- to come to
> resent everyone around them who can't or won't do quite as much.
> You're overdue for burnout, if you feel you haven't burnt out already.
>
> I'm really tired of seeing people martyr themselves at Noisebridge.
> That's what I'm trying to fix.
>
> Anything we may have discussed or tried in the past obviously hasn't
> worked, because if it did, you probably wouldn't give a damn about a
> small handful of "non-hackers" in the space.
>
> --Naomi
>
> ps. You might want to go back over the years of Meeting Notes and
> notice I am in attendance at a lot of them, except for most of 2012
> when I was living in Oakland and going to sudo room 95% of the time.
> But, so what?
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Johny Radio <johnyradio at gmail.com> wrote:
>> From: "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>
>>>>> I admit to being fairly annoyed at Johny's post (and yours, a little).
>>>>> The reason I am annoyed is that there's a pattern of
>>>>> complaining-without-doing that I would like to break.
>>
>>
>> Naomi, if i was guilty of that, you'd have a right to be annoyed.
>>
>> But i believe i've done quite a LOT, so i REALLY FUCKING resent your
>> implication, Naomi, that i complain with doing.
>>
>> Jake too has done a great deal to try and improve the situation. How
>> insulting to Jake for you to imply otherwise.
>>
>> Apparently you don't realize my efforts:
>>
>>     -I gathered Mitch Altman and 10 Noisebridgers last month for a 3-hour
>> meeting to template Working Groups.
>>     -Put a lot of time and work into organizing several Noisebridge
>> Orchestra concerts, in which MANY Noisebridgers collaborated, to promote
>> Noisebridge community. We performed at two Noisebridge fundraisers.
>>     -Participated in NUMEROUS nb cleanups in groups and by myself, for
>> years.
>>         http://youtu.be/qaiPZTtgEeY
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/photos/103915516001697169261/albums/5976325860479271009
>>     -Participated Tuesday meetings aplenty.
>>     -Organized numerous events and classes at noisebridge for years. My
>> event 2 weeks ago brought 40 people to Noisebridge.
>>         https://noisebridge.net/wiki/NoiseHack
>>         https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Theremin
>>     -Got parts donated to NB from Instructables.com
>>
>> http://blog.noisebridge.net/2013/12/18/noisebridgers-make-novel-method-to-cycle-leds/
>>     -Organizing a demo and training of a new CNC mill donated to Noisebridge
>> by Inventables.com (May 15, 7pm)
>>     -Created music-hacking and audio-hacking community resources
>>
>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Songbridge#Linux_Music_Production_Distros
>>         https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Web_Sound_Toys
>>     -Started a new NB mailing list with over 100 subscribers
>>         https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/sound-hacks
>>     -Cleaned bathrooms.
>>     -Produced a series of hacker spoken-word interviews (when others TALKED
>> about Noisebridge radio, but never actually produce any)
>>         https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SpokenWord
>>     -Donated money every month to NB for 3 years.
>>     -I'm organizing a Noisebridge fundraiser (May 31, 7pm).
>>
>> Your statement below shows you have no fucking clue. Jake has made his
>> feelings crystal clear on this list for years. That you would suggest
>> anything has improved AT ALL, let alone improved enough for Jake to return,
>> shows how fucking out-of-touch you are.
>>
>>
>> From: "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>> I am asking because I want to see if/how Jake's perspective has changed,
>>>> and whether he's aware of what's already changed in a direction that he
>>>> might like.
>>
>> From: "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>> To: "Jake" <jake at spaz.org>
>>
>>>> Well, thanks for clearing off your shelf
>>
>> You should not be THANKING Jake, you should be LAMENTING that Noisebridge
>> has lost one of it's most valuable participants.
>>
>> From: "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>> Johny, do you REALLY want to take on the concept of "Noisebridge is for
>>>> hackers, and non-hackers shouldn't be here?" Because if you do, you will
>>>> have to come to the Noisebridge meetings
>>
>> Goddammit Naomi, i have brought this up at countless Noisebridge meetings,
>> for years, and i did not notice you there.
>>
>> WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING TALKING ABOUT?
>>
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